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You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by CPUstring »

thiago_fm wrote: post #70

That's one big paradox. Coming from poverty, I work with plenty of talented people, but nowhere as talented as the people I've studied in shitty schools. Now most of those people from my poverty times continue to be poor, because of many problems poverty brought to them. I can clearly see that, and that I was the lucky one to find a way up many times. Yet, my new social circle believe that I'm talented because of my…

Coming from the middle class, I've never met anybody talented coming from a shitty school who didn't also get filtered into a gifted program at a good school. Maybe your school system just wasn't competent at filtering people?

Those that I know who have made bad life decisions (kids too early, dropping out of college, leaving extremely supportive parents) could totally have been expected to based off looking at GPA/SAT signals.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by fngjdflmdflg »

thiago_fm wrote: post #70

That's one big paradox. Coming from poverty, I work with plenty of talented people, but nowhere as talented as the people I've studied in shitty schools. Now most of those people from my poverty times continue to be poor, because of many problems poverty brought to them. I can clearly see that, and that I was the lucky one to find a way up many times. Yet, my new social circle believe that I'm talented because of my…

The correlation of IQ with income is 0.30[0]. Educational attainment is 0.32. So if you are intelligent (talented) or educated then you are statistically likely to have above average income. If you have both even more so.

[0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01602... (https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1016/j.intell.2007.02....) page 5 table 1.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by georgeecollins »

dcist wrote: post #103
thiago_fm wrote: post #70

That's one big paradox. Coming from poverty, I work with plenty of talented people, but nowhere as talented as the people I've studied in shitty schools. Now most of those people from my poverty times continue to be poor, because of many problems poverty brought to them. I can clearly see that, and that I was the lucky one to find a way up many times. Yet, my new social circle believe that I'm talented because of my…

Some people are indeed much better. Anyone who played sports as a kid understands this. Huge differences are immediately apparent in small children. But generally, I agree that, for most life tasks, the differences between people are not enormous. Humanity could do a much better job eliminating poverty. In the future, we may view enormous disparities in wealth as evil as we do racism today.

I don’t think the OP was saying that most people are the same, he was saying that most people have talent. In your sports analogy think about the kid who might be good at wrestling but terrible at track. And vice versa. The worry is that more affluent people sub-consciously see themselves as “better” in a universal way. That is not too different then European aristocracies used to see themselves.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by lwhi »

screye wrote: post #87

Incredible writing. Reading this, I kept feeling a sense that something was missing. It wasn't until later in the blog that I hit me. "Where is her community?" To a 3rd world immigrant, the idea of being this isolated in your the country you were born in, feels unfathomable. Back home, It's common for kids to live with their parents until the kids are ready, often until age 25-30. Alternatively, people will stuff the…

We used to have a reasonable welfare state in the UK, where the government took that duty upon itself.

It's been wrecked by the current right-wing government.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by dontlaugh »

distcs wrote: post #133

> still don’t have contents insurance (a hangover from poverty, I just wasn’t in the habit of insuring things and now keep putting it off, because paperwork terrifies me) The author seems to be from UK. Is contents insurance a thing in UK? How many renters really do buy contents insurance? Genuinely interested to know how many think that contents insurance is worth it?

I did for a short while. Then I realised I don't own anything of sufficient value to be worth it long term.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by calcifer »

Mainan_Tagonist wrote: post #35

Humm, I have a feeling part of the story is missing here, even though i can relate as i was myself a minimum wage worker in the hospitality industry in Britain for a while (back in 1999, my annual wage was something like 8500 pounds). Long odd hours, not so pleasant interfacing with customers, 7 people sharing a flat in London, so broke at the end of the month that walking from Mayfair to Canada Water was reality bec…

> this i feel would need to be clarified for me to be able to accept the conclusion

So you are inclined to dismiss her stated experience because she didn't choose to share every little detail of her life to your satisfaction?

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by bobthepanda »

gosub100 wrote: post #53
bobthepanda wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably run a functioning economy so that people can earn money at a rate faster than inflation? There’s more than one way to get fed. The UK economy has been one of the worst performers in developed economies since COVID.

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Right, because the benefits have gotten significantly better since COVID, not a prime minister totally tanking the economy by promising unfundable tax cuts and getting fired in 43 days, or the general bureaucratic mess that has been Brexit implementation.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by dudul »

screye wrote: post #87

Incredible writing. Reading this, I kept feeling a sense that something was missing. It wasn't until later in the blog that I hit me. "Where is her community?" To a 3rd world immigrant, the idea of being this isolated in your the country you were born in, feels unfathomable. Back home, It's common for kids to live with their parents until the kids are ready, often until age 25-30. Alternatively, people will stuff the…

> The father sounds like a deadbeat too, given his curious omission from the whole blog.

Maybe he passed away. Maybe she left him because she just wanted the kid. I don't know why you assume wrongdoing while, as you pointed out, no details is given.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by corobo »

CPUstring wrote: post #141
thiago_fm wrote: post #70

That's one big paradox. Coming from poverty, I work with plenty of talented people, but nowhere as talented as the people I've studied in shitty schools. Now most of those people from my poverty times continue to be poor, because of many problems poverty brought to them. I can clearly see that, and that I was the lucky one to find a way up many times. Yet, my new social circle believe that I'm talented because of my…

Coming from the middle class, I've never met anybody talented coming from a shitty school who didn't also get filtered into a gifted program at a good school. Maybe your school system just wasn't competent at filtering people? Those that I know who have made bad life decisions (kids too early, dropping out of college, leaving extremely supportive parents) could totally have been expected to based off looking at GPA/S…

> I've never met anybody talented coming from a shitty school who didn't also get filtered into a gifted program

I'm not sure I understand this one.. how would you know the gifted program missed them if they're now spending their life dealing with poverty? I'm guessing you don't mingle with the poors?

I've never met anyone that lives their entire life in the middle of a rainforest. So weird!

Also what the fuck is a gifted program lmao. That must be some London thing, aye? We were lucky to have teachers of the subject teaching the class up north haha

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