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You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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> But ignorance is a choice. No, it's not always a choice. You might be born in a family and community that actively brainwashes their members and prevents you from coming into contact with conflicting information. This can even be true in less severe circumstances, such as being bombarded with propaganda on social media, which essentially hacks your brain.

Yeah, a very interesting piece of cognitive dissonance is when people are all "a person's behavior is a product of their environment, which they can't be held fully responsible for" until the person in question holds views or engages in behavior that we want to hold them personally accountable for. I know neither the "product of environment" or "personal responsibility" view is absolute with anyone, but I've noticed…

How is behavior NOT a product of ones environment?

One only has the information to make decisions about the world they have gathered from their environment.

No one is born knowing correct way to behave.

As an example do you think everyone in the Middle East is Muslim because they've made the decision to be? Or because that is what their environment has taught them is correct.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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That's one big paradox. Coming from poverty, I work with plenty of talented people, but nowhere as talented as the people I've studied in shitty schools. Now most of those people from my poverty times continue to be poor, because of many problems poverty brought to them. I can clearly see that, and that I was the lucky one to find a way up many times. Yet, my new social circle believe that I'm talented because of my…

Luck is the big differentiator.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But ignorance is a choice. No, it's not always a choice. You might be born in a family and community that actively brainwashes their members and prevents you from coming into contact with conflicting information. This can even be true in less severe circumstances, such as being bombarded with propaganda on social media, which essentially hacks your brain.

I had a friend from a rough upbringing who called it, "poverty mindset". Eg you have a success in your life? Prepare to be shunned and thought of with disdain by your community.

The flip side of this is privilege mindset: you have success in your life? Your upper middle class upbringing, social safety net, financial security and financially successful peer group played no part in it, it's all because you worked hard (or smart) and now enjoy your just desserts, might as well kick down the ladder behind you so those lazy bums don't get a leg up.

Arguably this is more common among privileged folks (including those fleetingly getting a whiff of privilege, aka "temporarily embarrassed billionaires") than "poverty mindset" is among poor folks. And of course the accusation of "poverty mindset" usually isn't what you hear from the kinds like the author who actively take time and money out of their meagerly successful lives to help those worse off than them. It's instead something you're far more likely to hear from those who "made it out" (often "against all odds" without any consideration what the idea of "odds" means in this context) and incidentally don't believe they "owe" anything to those they "left behind".

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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This is a great article. How it ended up on HN I don't know, but can somebody please start submitting more like this, and fewer techno-babble thinkpieces by junior javascript contractors who host their own mail?

I see you’ve been on hacker news for about as long as I have. Used to be content like this would pop up more often on weekends for some reason. I too appreciate anything this thought provoking.
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