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You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by _mh56 »

This keeps happening to me. I read a feelgood story, visit the wiki page and then realize how muddy the water is:

>> Monroe has been described as an "austerity celebrity". In a January 2023 interview with Simon Hattenstone in The Guardian, Monroe acknowledged that she had recklessly spent money given by backers; she claimed "I'd go online absolutely shitfaced and buy nice furniture."

Granted most poor people do stupid stuff after getting monies, but the charm of the tale is diminished.

Edit: I meant touching not feelgood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Monroe

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by bdsa »

toyg wrote: post #42
eropple wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you consider the actual context of the essay and that the person to whom the author is speaking directly is the sister of an MP and herself a MEP, this kind of well-actually does ring hollow.

The sister of a generationally-wealthy MP, both the products of extremely wealthy families who did not have to work for their money (which is why they are both in politics - because they're pretty useless everywhere else).

Sister

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by drcongo »

gosub100 wrote: post #53
bobthepanda wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably run a functioning economy so that people can earn money at a rate faster than inflation? There’s more than one way to get fed. The UK economy has been one of the worst performers in developed economies since COVID.

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a) No, it's not 50%. and b) that's not how tax works. And c) to one of your other comments, the UK is not a socialist country, far from it.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by sterlind »

eropple wrote: post #24
toenail wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And choosing to use your privileges to patronise people whose lives are entirely beyond your experience and comprehension, is a choice Not sure how that way of thinking is productive. Patronising people is bad in itself. Thinking that people you perceive as "privileged" can't comprehend you is a choice too and a form of ignorance.

The author did not say can't . In the entire piece, the only person the author used the word can't in reference to was herself , when she was poor. Choice implies a don't and a won't . But, y'know? When those self-same people go on about how You Can Just Cook when--and this is a keyhole view, a single strand of a very nasty knot, don't you dare well-actually on the vertex and not the shape--poverty is directly tied t…

Especially considering what the author's been through with vindictive council busybodies making her live even that much more difficult out of sheer spite - like when they cut off her bennies before her first check even came in because they'd read about her deal in the paper - I think she held back rather more than I could in such a situation.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by goatsi »

Mainan_Tagonist wrote: post #35

Humm, I have a feeling part of the story is missing here, even though i can relate as i was myself a minimum wage worker in the hospitality industry in Britain for a while (back in 1999, my annual wage was something like 8500 pounds). Long odd hours, not so pleasant interfacing with customers, 7 people sharing a flat in London, so broke at the end of the month that walking from Mayfair to Canada Water was reality bec…

It's pretty clear if you read the article, and even more explicit in the news paper articles in her photos. She was a single mother with zero family support. She couldn't just work odd or long hours (and was forced to leave her existing better paid job) because there was nobody to care for her young child.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by thiago_fm »

That's one big paradox.

Coming from poverty, I work with plenty of talented people, but nowhere as talented as the people I've studied in shitty schools.

Now most of those people from my poverty times continue to be poor, because of many problems poverty brought to them. I can clearly see that, and that I was the lucky one to find a way up many times.

Yet, my new social circle believe that I'm talented because of my DNA and efforts, and blame others for their poverty.

But I know that those people making "poor" decisions in the view of riches are actually just trying to survive. With themselves, with the baggage they carry, and to the fact that they weren't as lucky as me.

Talent, intelligence is literally everywhere. People that are awesome and ambitious is abundant.

Nobody is really much better than others, but America post-ww2 managed to sell this idea to everyone, including many really smart and talented folks, that think they are gifted.

To sum up, nobody chooses to be poor and humanity could progress faster if we focused instead in eliminating poverty, creating more possibilities for everyone...

Than believing almost trillionaries will guide us to where we need it.

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