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Re: OpenCola

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People repeatedly say online that we know the Coca-Cola recipe, it's been leaked, etc., so it's not a secret, but it's clear doing some casual afternoon reading that whatever the exact composition is, it's not public knowledge.

All of the recreations that you can find readily available online and through videos "come close" or are "their own thing, but pretty decent," etc. At best, what we think we know of Coca-Cola is some long historic recipe that hasn't been used for decades.

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It's really tough seeing the amount of sugar that this recipe has. Really puts things into perspective, compared to simply drinking the end product from a can.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the recipe for the syrup [0], not the final beverage. The final beverage would obviously be diluted, to the given ratio of 7:1 in favor of carbonated water. The water/sugar ratio for the OpenCola syrup is nearly 1:1, which is the same ratio as simple syrup [1]. 0: https://github.com/cognitom/OpenCola/blob/master/recipe.mark... 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrup#Inverted_sugar_syrup

Coke is still ~40 grams of sugar per 12oz can. That's insanity and a quick way to give yourself diabeetus. No matter how bad you think artificial zero calorie sweeteners are, they are nothing compared to the damage that too much sugar does to your body.

I'm gonna poke at this only because some people take the anti-sugar message too far and use it to rationalize away the stuff that's really killing them.

Refined sugar is certainly not good for you, but a 12oz can of Coke - is 140 calories. That's about 6% of the recommended daily caloric intake.

Calories RDI is about 2000-2500 for most people. But most Americans eat more like 3000-3500 and don't exercise.

You can drink a 12 oz can of Coke every day and it's not even a blip on the radar. (A 64 oz tub of it, of course, is a different story.) What people need to do to be healthy is not overeat by 1,000 calories a day while never exercising. That combo will send you to an early grave, the can of Coke in a diet that otherwise hits the right macros, will not.

Re: OpenCola

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People repeatedly say online that we know the Coca-Cola recipe, it's been leaked, etc., so it's not a secret, but it's clear doing some casual afternoon reading that whatever the exact composition is, it's not public knowledge. All of the recreations that you can find readily available online and through videos "come close" or are "their own thing, but pretty decent," etc. At best, what we think we know of Coca-Cola…

Even if you had the recipe, you can't get decocainized coca, which only the Coca Cola company can import.

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It's really tough seeing the amount of sugar that this recipe has. Really puts things into perspective, compared to simply drinking the end product from a can.

A can of coke has almost 10 sugar cubes, it's pretty silly. The only winning move is not to play. https://www.zmescience.com/other/sugar-26072011/

Acid-sugar taste-hacking is something that has bothered me for quite a while.

We know that sodium consumption can be drastically reduced by adding salt at table rather than adding it directly to food. Why doesn't this happen with sugar? Why not make desserts that take advantage of the fact that surface sugar will make it seem to be sweeter than it actually is and just have table sugar?

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#16
I bought from Cuba Cola in the past. It wasn't bad. It basically tasted like grocery-store-brand Coke. I kept the 750ml syrup concentrate in the fridge at would add an ounce or so to my water carbonator whenever I felt like having a cup of soda.

It was intended to ween me off Coke, but, I'm sad to say that Coke won. I didn't bother purchasing another batch when we finished the first one. I instead graduated to buying the mini cans of Coke rather than the full-sized ones.

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It's really tough seeing the amount of sugar that this recipe has. Really puts things into perspective, compared to simply drinking the end product from a can.

This is true, but the thing is, you don't have to follow the recipe. When I made a batch of this, I just bought the 7x concentrate from Cuba-Cola (https://cube-cola.org/index.php?route=product/category&path=...) and then added like half the amount of sugar it called for when making the concentrate, so that it was more like a 1:1 sugar:water ratio ("simple syrup") rather than a 2:1 ("rich syrup"). It didn't taste as sweet as commercial Coke, but it tasted fine.

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post #3

It's really tough seeing the amount of sugar that this recipe has. Really puts things into perspective, compared to simply drinking the end product from a can.

A can of coke has almost 10 sugar cubes, it's pretty silly. The only winning move is not to play. https://www.zmescience.com/other/sugar-26072011/

I drink it only 1-2 times per year. It is helpful on long distance rides. I like sugar more than I like Cola.

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post #3

It's really tough seeing the amount of sugar that this recipe has. Really puts things into perspective, compared to simply drinking the end product from a can.

I stopped drinking soda many years ago because it's all just far, far too sweet for me. But a couple of years back, I started making my own (real) root beer because making my own means that I can control how sweet it is. I prefer mine with about 1/3 the sugar that is in most soda.

Re: OpenCola

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coke is still ~40 grams of sugar per 12oz can. That's insanity and a quick way to give yourself diabeetus. No matter how bad you think artificial zero calorie sweeteners are, they are nothing compared to the damage that too much sugar does to your body.

I'm gonna poke at this only because some people take the anti-sugar message too far and use it to rationalize away the stuff that's really killing them. Refined sugar is certainly not good for you, but a 12oz can of Coke - is 140 calories. That's about 6% of the recommended daily caloric intake. Calories RDI is about 2000-2500 for most people. But most Americans eat more like 3000-3500 and don't exercise. You can dri…

For me, the issue with Coke isn't that one Can can kill you. It's that I never seem to be able to drink only one can.

When I drink Coke, it becomes the primary way I hydrate. So five, six cans a day is not uncommon.

I can't speak for everyone, but I've known plenty of other people who end each workday with 5+ cans of Coke on their desk.

Personally, when I was drinking coke regularly, I was >30% body fat. Now that I've cut Coke completely from my diet, I am ~15%.

Honestly though, I would love for these facts to not be true for me. I miss Coke dearly. It's my favorite drink.

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