Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

cookingonabootstrap.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 344 posts

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

#21

Post by BobaFloutist »

toenail wrote: post #13
markx2 wrote: post #2

"And my main point is that poverty and privilege are largely accidental. You don’t choose to be born into an income bracket, a country pile, a housing estate, a double barrelled name or a damp tenement bedsit. But ignorance is a choice. And choosing to use your privileges to patronise people whose lives are entirely beyond your experience and comprehension, is a choice."

> And choosing to use your privileges to patronise people whose lives are entirely beyond your experience and comprehension, is a choice Not sure how that way of thinking is productive. Patronising people is bad in itself. Thinking that people you perceive as "privileged" can't comprehend you is a choice too and a form of ignorance.

She didn't say they "can't", she said that they "don't."

"Beyond your experience and comprehension" doesn't preclude the acquiring of more experience, it just suggests they don't currently have it.

She's pointing specifically at the people that are patronizing, and explaining why specifically their words are patronizing, not saying that nobody with any wealth could ever understand her - if they couldn't, what on earth would be the point of her blog?

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

#22

Post by gosub100 »

avereveard wrote: post #7
markx2 wrote: post #2

"And my main point is that poverty and privilege are largely accidental. You don’t choose to be born into an income bracket, a country pile, a housing estate, a double barrelled name or a damp tenement bedsit. But ignorance is a choice. And choosing to use your privileges to patronise people whose lives are entirely beyond your experience and comprehension, is a choice."

[flagged]

[flagged]

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

#23

Post by jauntywundrkind »

Part of this frustrates me, gives me ill thoughts, about the many various dysfunctions. But I think it kind of won me over anyways, gave me some connection to long hard trauma that starts to explain trauma response. Amid a system with collapsed safety nets.

But speaking of connection, the humble beginnings story, of how she wrote her way towards something somewhat better makes me somewhat swell with pride, that people have these devices & are connected & can speak as we do:

> I wrote the majority of A Girl Called Jack by email on a Nokia E72. I still have it in my desk drawer, and every now and then I just stare at it, and its tiny awful buttons, and wonder how the f*ck I did it. Because I had no other choice but to. It was my one chance at escape, my yellow brick road, my shiny red slippers, and I took it.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

#24

Post by eropple »

toenail wrote: post #13
markx2 wrote: post #2

"And my main point is that poverty and privilege are largely accidental. You don’t choose to be born into an income bracket, a country pile, a housing estate, a double barrelled name or a damp tenement bedsit. But ignorance is a choice. And choosing to use your privileges to patronise people whose lives are entirely beyond your experience and comprehension, is a choice."

> And choosing to use your privileges to patronise people whose lives are entirely beyond your experience and comprehension, is a choice Not sure how that way of thinking is productive. Patronising people is bad in itself. Thinking that people you perceive as "privileged" can't comprehend you is a choice too and a form of ignorance.

The author did not say can't. In the entire piece, the only person the author used the word can't in reference to was herself, when she was poor. Choice implies a don't and a won't.

But, y'know? When those self-same people go on about how You Can Just Cook when--and this is a keyhole view, a single strand of a very nasty knot, don't you dare well-actually on the vertex and not the shape--poverty is directly tied to mental health problems and the attendant executive dysfunctions that frequently come with? It's reasonable to assume either ignorance or malice (or even, though the author does not, the incapability of can't).

And adjusting one's pince-nez to hmm-hmm-hmm about perhaps it's actually the poors who are ignorant is, to put a point on it, gross.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

#25

Post by lawn »

markx2 wrote: post #2

"And my main point is that poverty and privilege are largely accidental. You don’t choose to be born into an income bracket, a country pile, a housing estate, a double barrelled name or a damp tenement bedsit. But ignorance is a choice. And choosing to use your privileges to patronise people whose lives are entirely beyond your experience and comprehension, is a choice."

> But ignorance is a choice.

No, it's not always a choice.

You might be born in a family and community that actively brainwashes their members and prevents you from coming into contact with conflicting information.

This can even be true in less severe circumstances, such as being bombarded with propaganda on social media, which essentially hacks your brain.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

#26

Post by ErasticBrub »

markx2 wrote: post #2

"And my main point is that poverty and privilege are largely accidental. You don’t choose to be born into an income bracket, a country pile, a housing estate, a double barrelled name or a damp tenement bedsit. But ignorance is a choice. And choosing to use your privileges to patronise people whose lives are entirely beyond your experience and comprehension, is a choice."

[flagged]

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

#28

Post by [deleted] »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #10
avereveard wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Parents sure, but you had nothing to do with your parents bringing you here. Maybe your parents left you a few millions in a trust or even a billions worth family business... or your parents left you outside, in the streets, without school, making you beg others for food to survive. You had literally zero choice of what family you're getting born into.

[deleted]

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

#30

Post by [deleted] »

toenail wrote: post #13
markx2 wrote: post #2

"And my main point is that poverty and privilege are largely accidental. You don’t choose to be born into an income bracket, a country pile, a housing estate, a double barrelled name or a damp tenement bedsit. But ignorance is a choice. And choosing to use your privileges to patronise people whose lives are entirely beyond your experience and comprehension, is a choice."

> And choosing to use your privileges to patronise people whose lives are entirely beyond your experience and comprehension, is a choice Not sure how that way of thinking is productive. Patronising people is bad in itself. Thinking that people you perceive as "privileged" can't comprehend you is a choice too and a form of ignorance.

[deleted]
Post reply on HN