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Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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The actual headline is slightly less inflammatory: "Google Promises Unlimited Cloud Storage; Then Cancels Plan; Then Tells Journalist His Life’s Work Will Be Deleted Without Enough Time To Transfer The Data" The facts of the article are even less inflammatory. The journalist uploaded 237.22 TB of video to his google drive when the "unlimited" plan existed. When google phased out the unlimited plan, he's not paying fo…

Sure, let's blame the victim here!

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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post #26

1) Physical Media that YOU physically own & control. 2) Off-Site Backups Regardless of the threat, whether it is just bad media, house fire, ordinary thieves, or the FBI, relying on some cloud service as your only backup is a plan to fail. If it is a threat if someone reads the backups, encrypt. Sure, as a supplemental convenience, use Google or something. But as the only backup of your life's work? I feel really bad…

I agree with having offsite backup. But for 250 TB that is not that easy or cheap.

One disk of family pictures you can give to a family member.

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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post #24

People really need to understand that Google is a garbage company that can't be relied on for anything. I've spent years as a consultant, and several more in the startup world, and I'd rather host all my content in us-east-1 than rely on google. * I've had customers get their cloud accounts shut down for a literal three cent billing error, * I've seen people who use Google for advertising pay thousands of dollars and…

> * I personally ran a website with Google Ads, and the first time I tried to cash out was accused of click fraud and had all the earned money stolen, I've heard of this happening to a lot of people. I hate using Adsense, and have mainly disabled it in the past, but it seems when I do, I get super heavy traffic and always think, "darn, I should have kept Adsense running". I'm wondering if it's worth slowing down my s…

If I recall correctly, if you choose to close your adsense account send you your remaining balance even if it is below $100.

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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post #27

The title is wrong. He had the option of paying for the space at least for the time that it takes him to download and archive the data himself.

Pretty clear blackmail. "We are gonna delete your data before you have a chance to download it, unless you pay us thousands of dollars"

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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post #37
post #24

People really need to understand that Google is a garbage company that can't be relied on for anything. I've spent years as a consultant, and several more in the startup world, and I'd rather host all my content in us-east-1 than rely on google. * I've had customers get their cloud accounts shut down for a literal three cent billing error, * I've seen people who use Google for advertising pay thousands of dollars and…

Yeah, say all you want about AWS pricing, but damn if Amazon doesn't go out of their way to support things for a very long time.

What I can say about AWS pricing is that my monthly personal bill is just over $10 for all I want to do personally, and my employer's bill is... higher, but cheap compared to the cost of my time.

If I had to lose one bit of data or port one platform due to Google's !@#$%^&, it would more than pay my lifetime personal Google expenses many times over, as well as of the lifetime expenses of my current employer.

Former employer bubbled up to millions of dollars, and it was still worth it. Former employer got screwed over by Google to a greater tune, despite having a dedicated engineering support team at Google.

The math starts to work out differently for some of the PaaS providers, where costs are several times higher than AWS, and my time is cheaper despite the (rather impressive) time savings. However, having a reliable cloud provider pays for itself many times over.

I've lost had serious unexpected expenses literally every time I've been in any business setting which did business with Google. That's quite a few times. Literally the only time I'll do business with Google is:

- Free tier, quick one-off hack

- Legacy

- Literally no other options

Even the legacy, I'm working to port away since it's cheaper to do on my timeline than Google's.

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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post #24

People really need to understand that Google is a garbage company that can't be relied on for anything. I've spent years as a consultant, and several more in the startup world, and I'd rather host all my content in us-east-1 than rely on google. * I've had customers get their cloud accounts shut down for a literal three cent billing error, * I've seen people who use Google for advertising pay thousands of dollars and…

> * I personally ran a website with Google Ads, and the first time I tried to cash out was accused of click fraud and had all the earned money stolen, I've heard of this happening to a lot of people. I hate using Adsense, and have mainly disabled it in the past, but it seems when I do, I get super heavy traffic and always think, "darn, I should have kept Adsense running". I'm wondering if it's worth slowing down my s…

As long as you don't turn on auto-ads, you can control Adsense to take up a limited amount of space as small as you'd like. Most of the users that would be offended by ads are already blocking.

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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post #56

It appears that he had a Workspace account which offered “unlimited” storage for a time, predicated on the account type being multiuser businesses or education, with a per-seat fee. Google phased out the unlimited storage awhile ago (over a year) after people discovered a loophole where paying for one account still provided unlimited storage. Predictable abuse followed (see /r/datahoarders). While I’m sympathetic to…

>If he were paying for the consumed storage as a standard Drive customer, this wouldn’t be happening.

>Burke said he paid Google “a lot of money for a long time”

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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post #37
post #24

People really need to understand that Google is a garbage company that can't be relied on for anything. I've spent years as a consultant, and several more in the startup world, and I'd rather host all my content in us-east-1 than rely on google. * I've had customers get their cloud accounts shut down for a literal three cent billing error, * I've seen people who use Google for advertising pay thousands of dollars and…

Yeah, say all you want about AWS pricing, but damn if Amazon doesn't go out of their way to support things for a very long time.

Not only that but they actually provide real support.

I once complained on Twitter that I was having trouble with an EKS issue, and the product manager for EKS reached out to me directly, put me in contact with one of their engineers, and then they discovered an issue and rolled out a fix for it that day.

In a separate incident, I couldn't get GCP to read the verification data for a domain from their webmaster tools so I was unable to use the domain with GCP Cloud Run. I mentioned this on Twitter, and the product manager reached out to lecture me about how I shouldn't be using Cloud Run with domain mapping because that's in "preview". He then pointed me to another method to point a domain at cloud run, which it turned out was also in preview. All of this was because Google Webmaster Tools validated the domain but GCP wasn't able to get that information. I ended up cancelling the GCP project and just using AWS (as I should have from the start).

It's embedded deeply in Google's culture that they not only don't provide support, but they'll insult and gaslight the people asking for it.

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