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Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by alephnan »

SadCordDrone wrote: post #78
alephnan wrote: post #9

> “But what are GitHub stars?” This is weird. It’s almost as if this is a sales pitch to non-technical management who gets to make the executive decision on what issue tracker to use. That’s almost antithetical to “by engineers, for engineers” If this project is driven by commercial interests, then the open-source spirit, if any, isn’t genuine and won’t stick around once VCs want the bait-and-switch. Edit: the blog p…

> All the non trivial contributors are exclusively from a country known for Infosys, clickfarms for social media engagement, gamifying the interview/recruitment funnel (see Grace Hopper convention) I see your other points are valid but this was uncalled for. The person who commented the telemetry issue (Kailash Nadh) is also from India and CTO of largest stock broker, he is also known for encouraging open source soft…

> All the dysfunctions you mention are symptoms of large population - of which I too have been a victim of. But I have seen some very good engineers in this country too.

Me too.

One of the best Indian candidates I interviewed was the one who had the worst college grades... probably because they focused on internalizing the material and actual problem solving. The other candidates all studied Leetcode, and was dumbfounded when asked a simple, non Leetcode question. The question was to bruteforce and guest a password to a website. I provide them the API definition to Login with a Username and Password. All they had to do was generate every possible password between 8 and 20 characters. There is no rate limiting and we don't care about optimality or runtime. The only tricky bit is that there are a variety of business/password words such as password strings can't start with a number. If they call the API with 5 passwords that don't satisfy the password rules, they get locked out. This isn't worded as a Leetcode problem, but it's really just generating every permutation and filter out strings that don't match some condition checks (which I enumerate for them. It's not a blackbox). Asking people to program against this API: boolean login(username: String, password: String) was enough to trip up these people with Masters degree.

The problem with people cheating the system is that it harms candidates like this.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by IggleSniggle »

mrklol wrote: post #87
dpoljak wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its amazing to me that it has become such a default, similarly to Slack before it. At least some Slack communities tried and worked on getting the channels indexed so that it shows up during web searches, now with discord I need an account just to view the content... A hard pass from me, especially when an answer to a simple question requires me to drink from their firehose of a search...

I always go with discord in newer projects. Why? I feel like most people have discord nowadays and it just works (TM). I rarely have a case where a person said that they can’t join because they don’t have discord or don’t want to create an account because other reasons. Beside that, money is also a big factor. Slack for example is getting more expensive for communities.

It does not "just work," and you're not going to hear from me because I'm not joining yet another Discord server just to wade through searching through chat. Do a free forum. They've worked for 30 years and I might actually find my answer by Googling and won't need to even making a forum account.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by hoofhearted »

dmezzetti wrote: post #81

GitHub Issues is all you need? In combination with projects and milestones, I feel like it can be more than enough for many use cases.

I believe one major difference between GH issues and Jira tickets in an enterprise setting is the lack of time estimating and work logs in GH.

I know that a lot of enterprises use the time estimates combined with the work log in Jira to time box sprint cycles based off of how long it took to complete past tickets.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by alephnan »

prepend wrote: post #86
alephnan wrote: post #53

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The problem isn’t that stars are imperfect, but they have become gamified. The emphasis on GitHub stars as a form of authority makes me trust this project even less. You’d expect VCs to do due diligence on the authenticity and quality of GitHub reviews, but I’m dubious about that, whether they are doing so out of willful ignorance or not is a separate question. All of the contributors on this project are from the cou…

I agree on the gamification, but I think they are still useful. I mean this project has 18k stars that just tells me it’s popular. It’s possible they bought fake stars but at 18k that would be strange. I think stars are useless for comparing a 17k project to an 18k project and anyone comparing that way would be flagged by me as not so smart. But it is useful to distinguish something with just a few stars from thousan…

Originally, Amazon was great because the most popular/reviewed products were usually the best one. The opposite has become true.

For a while, websites like fakepsot.com that analyzed and rated the credibility of these reviews worked well. Since then, they've been gamed.

I'm not sure there's been a successful service for analyzing Github reviews

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by Guillaume86 »

salawat wrote: post #76
dabeeeenster wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spent 10 minutes trying to get it running locally, couldn't. They suddenly mention nginx in the self hosting docs - why?! I don't understand open source projects that required you to fiddle around with scripts, environment files, reverse proxies etc to try the platform out! docker compose up should "just work" ™.

I want to know what configs are needed to get things stood up. I actually don't dockerize things right away. I setup my nginx to forward to different machines in my network. When I settle on a home for things, I may (finally) get around to whipping up a Dockerfile. Not everything needs to be enterprise whizbang out the gate.

A docker compose file and the corresponding Dockerfiles should tell you all you need to self host as well.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by [deleted] »

mrklol wrote: post #87
dpoljak wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its amazing to me that it has become such a default, similarly to Slack before it. At least some Slack communities tried and worked on getting the channels indexed so that it shows up during web searches, now with discord I need an account just to view the content... A hard pass from me, especially when an answer to a simple question requires me to drink from their firehose of a search...

I always go with discord in newer projects. Why? I feel like most people have discord nowadays and it just works (TM). I rarely have a case where a person said that they can’t join because they don’t have discord or don’t want to create an account because other reasons. Beside that, money is also a big factor. Slack for example is getting more expensive for communities.

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Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by bachmeier »

luke-stanley wrote: post #43

Okay it's open source but self-hosting it is not straightforward. The repo's self-hosting doc link returns a 404. Then after manually finding https://docs.plane.so/self-hosting/self-hosting , I am warned that there is a dizzying array of 4 env files. I suppose they are in a tricky situation, in that while they want to stand out as open source, actually having people easily self-host it, is perhaps, not a goal that is…

It's been a long time since I fell for the marketing slogan about a product like this being open source. I wasted a lot of hours learning that lesson. If a company has a financial incentive for something to not work, it's not that hard to make sure it doesn't.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by lnxg33k1 »

luke-stanley wrote: post #43

Okay it's open source but self-hosting it is not straightforward. The repo's self-hosting doc link returns a 404. Then after manually finding https://docs.plane.so/self-hosting/self-hosting , I am warned that there is a dizzying array of 4 env files. I suppose they are in a tricky situation, in that while they want to stand out as open source, actually having people easily self-host it, is perhaps, not a goal that is…

If you want to self-host the only sanity-aware path is redmine, imho

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by hmottestad »

vmfunction wrote: post #85
dabeeeenster wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spent 10 minutes trying to get it running locally, couldn't. They suddenly mention nginx in the self hosting docs - why?! I don't understand open source projects that required you to fiddle around with scripts, environment files, reverse proxies etc to try the platform out! docker compose up should "just work" ™.

well some people like docker and some don't. If you are in the self-hosting realm, personally I think it is fair that the people doing it knows about DevOp or systemadmin, or else pay someone to host it for you.

I think the parent comment just wanted to say that since this project uses docker compose then it should be a lot simpler to get up and running. Actually running something in production would still require some degree of administration and monitoring based on your use case.

On their webpage it says that you can get started in 30 seconds with their hosted instance. Would be nice if it was as simple to get started with a locally hosted instance.

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