unrelated, but does anyone else start to panic in autonomous vehicles? Every time I have been in a Tesla with autopilot on I immediately feel dread and and impending doom and I get very anxious.
Tesla Recalls 2M Cars to Fix Autopilot Safety Flaws
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#42I really wonder where we're headed (in general, not specifically with Teslas) regarding technologies requirements to "do enough to prevent misuse." These requirements are already a major thorn in my side. My car has sensors to detect when a passenger isn't wearing a seat belt and to blast an ear-hurting alarm directly at the driver. It's so loud that it's actually a safety issue in itself because it's hard to focus o…
Agreed. I heard a story about a guy who is used to chewing tobacco while driving and would crack open the door and spit while moving at speed. He tried doing this in his son's new jeep and the car immediately slammed on the brakes and nearly caused an accident. Obviously cracking the door to spit out the bottom isn't too safe but slamming on the brakes? What why?
What exactly is the issue? That the guy has been recklessly opening his car door, while driving it, at speed, for his entire life?
Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Cars to Fix Autopilot Safety Flaws
#43I really wonder where we're headed (in general, not specifically with Teslas) regarding technologies requirements to "do enough to prevent misuse." These requirements are already a major thorn in my side. My car has sensors to detect when a passenger isn't wearing a seat belt and to blast an ear-hurting alarm directly at the driver. It's so loud that it's actually a safety issue in itself because it's hard to focus o…
On the other hand, a couple of days ago I set the parking brake and absentmindedly walked out of a car with the automatic transmission still in reverse ... fortunately the brake held, I was behind the car going "huh, funny, the reverse lights are on ... oh, **!"
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#44Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Cars to Fix Autopilot Safety Flaws
#45unrelated, but does anyone else start to panic in autonomous vehicles? Every time I have been in a Tesla with autopilot on I immediately feel dread and and impending doom and I get very anxious.
If that the case, perhaps you should feel that way every time you are near a road. Without commenting on autopilot performance, there are enough drivers who are worse.
Maybe autopilot just helps you realize that you are not really fully in control about everything that may happen.
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#46Still calling over the air software updates recalls?
Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Cars to Fix Autopilot Safety Flaws
#47The details are scant, but it sounds like the vehicle is going to be quicker to disable autopilot if it thinks you aren’t paying attention. I’m curious to see what this amounts to because Autopilot is already pretty sensitive to this. Pick up your phone or look away from the road for more than a few seconds and the in-cabin car notices and warns you. I don’t know of a comparable system in any car with self driving or…
My 2020 Hyundai has this.
These work by having an always on IR camera watch the driver.
Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Cars to Fix Autopilot Safety Flaws
#48We should either stop calling these recalls, or news sites should announce iOS and Android updates in a similar manner also > Apple is recalling 45 Brazilion iPhones and iPads to fix software flaw
Simply call them software recalls.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
By the same logic you could say that airplanes shouldn't call their pilot assist system "Autopilot" either, because it requires monitoring and input from pilots who will need to disengage the system and intervene/fly manually in certain scenarios. Autopilot is probably actually quite a good term for it if you actually compare it to a plane Autopilot - you don't expect pilots to be inattentive or away from the control…
Not comparable at all. Airplanes are flown by trained professionals who know exactly what Autopilot can and cannot do. Regular consumers don't know these differences though and Tesla deliberately uses this ambiguity to deceive their own customers, who expect a "fully self driving" car.
As, but both sets are trained to different levels on a sliding scale. Shades of grey make language complicated.
Re: Tesla Recalls 2M Cars to Fix Autopilot Safety Flaws
#50I really wonder where we're headed (in general, not specifically with Teslas) regarding technologies requirements to "do enough to prevent misuse." These requirements are already a major thorn in my side. My car has sensors to detect when a passenger isn't wearing a seat belt and to blast an ear-hurting alarm directly at the driver. It's so loud that it's actually a safety issue in itself because it's hard to focus o…
Except for the nav, most people would consider the occasional beep to be a petty minor issue. Except for the nav thing, these things have been around for ages, and if you’re struggling with them that heavily, I would suggest that features that have been pretty standard for 30+ years that the issue might not be the features.
> most people would consider the occasional beep to be a petty minor issue.
Ok so you didn't actually read my comment. Granted it was long, but if you're going to reply you should probably actually read it