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GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe
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Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe
#212Currently when I go into my car, I can resume listening to the podcast, or I can listen to my music (different app), or whatever.
I doubt any car manufacturer will be able to offer the same seamless experience when they build their own entertainment system, because now they'd have to scale to all relevant apps, not just one (or two) standard ways to interface.
Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe
#213Automobile companies tried for years to make a decent infotainment system in cars, and almost universally they were all terrible no matter how expensive the vehicle. Finally Android Auto and CarPlay gave everyone what they wanted - decent access to music on their phone, call capabilities that actually work, and program integration with things they actually use with internet service they already have. Then manufacture…
Just an anecdote - I own a Volvo XC60(with Sensus not AAOS) and 99% of the time I'd rather just use the built-in OS than Android Auto - AA is slow to respond and imprecise(clicks are almost always recognized as swipes rather than clicks, problem which doesn't happen in the built-in OS), and every time you need to do something it locks you out for 5 seconds to look at the road, even though it's my passenger using it.…
> every time you need to do something it locks you out for 5 seconds to look at the road
Whoever came up with that wasn't entirely right in the head: so now people will stare at the device for another five seconds wondering what they did wrong. Sound of impact.
Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe
#214Currently when I go into my car, I can resume listening to the podcast, or I can listen to my music (different app), or whatever. I doubt any car manufacturer will be able to offer the same seamless experience when they build their own entertainment system, because now they'd have to scale to all relevant apps, not just one (or two) standard ways to interface.
Oh they've already solved for that years ago! It'll just automatically send a Play signal via Bluetooth when your phone connects to it! And for good measure, there will be no way to control this at all. Enjoy having random content from your phone's recent media sessions forced into your car audio because the car company thinks it's "convenient"!
Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe
#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
For what it's worth, most vehicles still have aftermarket dash panels and wiring harnesses so you can install whatever you want. Way less of a compromise than buying an older vehicle, but I wouldn't expect some of the control integrations with the steering wheel and other displays to work though. Really in retrospect nothing has changed from the days double-din was standard apart from some extra steps. Does anyone kn…
Do they really? Most recent cars I've seen have a touchscreen LCD popping up out of the dash and it all looks rather custom. Are there some kind of standards like double-DIN?
One option is standalone CarPlay and Android Auto head units - search for carpuride or Atoto for examples.
There’s other manufacturers as well.
I recall seeing model specific replacement head units for the pop up type display you describe but can’t find them now
Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
I slip the key card between my phone case and it works fine.
Yeah, a card. A very inconvenient form factor compared to a key. I forgot that new cars use cards more and more. A key can be put in a pocket and never breaks. A card needs a holder to protect it.
You can always get a key fob, you just have to buy it separately.
I'll never go back to a car without being able to use my phone as a (reliable) key and store the credit card sized backup key in my wallet. Because it's just that - a backup key. In over two years I've used the key a total of zero times. And one thing I've noticed is that key fobs seems to become bigger and bigger, every year. Just look at the new Volvo key fob. It's the same size as AirPods charging case.
Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe
#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
For what it's worth, most vehicles still have aftermarket dash panels and wiring harnesses so you can install whatever you want. Way less of a compromise than buying an older vehicle, but I wouldn't expect some of the control integrations with the steering wheel and other displays to work though. Really in retrospect nothing has changed from the days double-din was standard apart from some extra steps. Does anyone kn…
Do they really? Most recent cars I've seen have a touchscreen LCD popping up out of the dash and it all looks rather custom. Are there some kind of standards like double-DIN?
you just need an aftermarket trim piece that allows install of standard head units.
Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe
#218Automobile companies tried for years to make a decent infotainment system in cars, and almost universally they were all terrible no matter how expensive the vehicle. Finally Android Auto and CarPlay gave everyone what they wanted - decent access to music on their phone, call capabilities that actually work, and program integration with things they actually use with internet service they already have. Then manufacture…
I have like the opposite experience...AA and Carplay have always been cause of issues, having to take the phone in my hand while driving, sluggishness..
In fact I feel the opposite you say: car play has been an excuse for some automakers for subpar infotainment.
That being said removing it completely is madness, because people like you are millions and want it.
Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe
#219Currently when I go into my car, I can resume listening to the podcast, or I can listen to my music (different app), or whatever. I doubt any car manufacturer will be able to offer the same seamless experience when they build their own entertainment system, because now they'd have to scale to all relevant apps, not just one (or two) standard ways to interface.
You can just connect to Bluetooth and resume your podcast naturally by continuing to play the current media, or switch to a different app (using your phone in hands free mode).
Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe
#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm guessing that when buying a car most people can't afford to be picky with the infotainment system and will prioritize buying a better car over infotainment quality. Worst-case scenario these days is not too bad either, you'll get an aux connector or somewhat stable Bluetooth (if you set it up once and avoid doing anything other than play/pause/next). Yeah, from the software engineering point of view it's slow unr…
As a data point, I buy used cars because they are not a tool I use for work so they are not like my laptop. It's pointless to pay the full price for a car: it is 100% a cost, the car has not ways to give me back some of the money I spend on it. So my cars are always about 5 or 6 years old when I buy them. I optimize for price and costs of running and maintaining them. What's important is that they handle well, brake…
How long do you keep such cars? Also, 5/6 years old depending on mileage & make is usually the time for some expensive part replacements. Eg. water pump, thermostat & related sensors for BMW F30.