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GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Post by dylan604 »

ungamedplayer wrote: post #6
vondur wrote: post #2

I won’t consider a car that doesn’t support CarPlay. This is going to backfire on Gam big time.

I imagine quite a lot of people will be. There might be room for after market head unit replacement for these new models.

are you basing that on the entire history of after market replacement head units, or did you just make up something in favor of your preference?

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Post by KerrAvon »

mattmaroon wrote: post #11

Yeah, bullshit. You know what’ll really many people just pick up their device? Whatever second-rate voice to text GM licenses from god knows who. Or all the things GM’s software can’t do because iOS won’t let them. I wouldn’t buy a GM car anyway since they’re consistently low quality (they’re the Detroit Lions of auto making) so I won’t act like they just lost my business, but I especially wouldn’t buy one after they…

I’ve been pretty impressed with the Bolt for the price. It’s a shame the next generation one won’t be on my list due to lack of CarPlay.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Post by kelnos »

I've never owned a car made by GM, but a decision like this guarantees I never will.

I don't buy their take that the safety issues are because Android Auto and CarPlay are buggy and have connection issues and other crap that cause people to use their phone directly. I've only had a new enough car to use Android Auto for a year and half now, but I've literally never encountered a bug that required me to touch my phone. If there are bugs on GM's cars, I expect that's an issue with the car's software, not Google's or Apple's.

Obviously GM is putting forth a bad-faith argument to justify their real reason, which is that they just want full control over the experience, and likely want to find ways to monetize things that people can do with their own interface.

Good luck with that, GM. Even if GM somehow manages to build a nice, performant, featureful, non-buggy infotainment system (yeah, right), guaranteed they're going to stop releasing updates for each car's version of it within 5-10 years of the car's release. Meanwhile, as long as my phone keeps getting updates, Android Auto will keep getting updates.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Post by darrylb42 »

I thought I wanted a new car, but all I really wanted was Android Auto. Added a new touch screen to my 10 year old car, wireless Android Auto is great. I do wish there were a few more app icons at the bottom of the screen. I tend to switch between three apps and there are only buttons for two that are not maps or making calls.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Post by conk »

antoniuschan99 wrote: post #17

I went ahead and googled if tesla uses android auto or carplay and apparently it doesn’t either. Neither does Rivian.

Yes which is a major factor in why I bought a Mach E and have held off on getting a Rivian for now.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Post by jandrewrogers »

alsodumb wrote: post #3

Wait, so they're saying CarPlay and Android Auto are buggy on their cars, most likely because of their errors in getting the mirroring part right, so instead of fixing the issues, they think switching to their in-house system that they will design from scratch, that'll probably have hundreds of bugs, that's most likely gonna suck, is a better option? They could've just said we're out of excuses we just want to make m…

What makes you think they design it in-house? Automotive companies outsource most of this software to third parties at bottom-feeder rates on a hard delivery deadline. They don’t know how to produce good software like this. Every aspect of the process is the antithesis of what is required to have quality software come out the other side.

I have my issues with CarPlay but the OEM software is hot garbage by comparison.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Post by chrisdbanks »

Why don't they just add a dock for my phone so I can use my phone's screen and control the car through their app. That would cut their costs and make me happier. There's no way I'm paying a subscription for my car. This is as stupid as the BMW idea to charge a subscription for aircon.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Post by yborg »

YPPH wrote: post #21

The major advantage of AA/CP is they are simple screen projection protocols capable of being supported for decades. The "brains" of the system, namely the phone, can be easily upgraded as technology changes. People will get new phones. Operating systems will be upgraded. Apps will come and go. Maps will update. The system will keep working flawlessly. This can't happen with fixed hardware in vehicle - the firmware an…

That is a feature as far as the manufacturers are concerned.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Post by Bluecobra »

ungamedplayer wrote: post #6
vondur wrote: post #2

I won’t consider a car that doesn’t support CarPlay. This is going to backfire on Gam big time.

I imagine quite a lot of people will be. There might be room for after market head unit replacement for these new models.

Problem is that a lot of vehicles have displays that stick up like a wart on the dashboard now. Though it would be great if you could reuse the display and just replace the internal components.
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