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Re: VMware transition to subscription, end of sale of perpetual licenses

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I don't know how managers aren't paying for RedHat products excitedly. It's the only business which competes with itself and where an acquisition by a private equity firm will, by the application of the typical strategies, destroy it's own customer base in days.

Not like open-source won, more like proprietary eats itself.

Re: VMware transition to subscription, end of sale of perpetual licenses

#63
This is unfortunate. The writing was on the wall already with vSphere+, but I can't really commit to a subscription for VM infrastructure. Broadcom would be able to hold the whole company hostage with price increases.

I’m not sure yet where we'll end up, but the small cluster of 8 machines of ours will not run vSphere in 2025.

Re: VMware transition to subscription, end of sale of perpetual licenses

#64

You know, I always used to think that e.g. Amazon talking about “customer obsession” was stupid. Of course a business is focused on its customers? That’s where the money comes from? Then I got to see the conversation about subscriptions at VMware. The storyline was always “wouldn’t it be great for us if we switched to subscriptions? Look how good all the math gets!” The customer barely appeared as a background charac…

I read The Messy Middle some time ago, which mostly documents the process of Behance's CEO joining Adobe post-acquisition and then switching their entire suite of products over to their new subscription-based model, Creative Cloud, and sunsetting their perpetual license model.

This is described in the book as a fantastic achievement for Adobe but one that was quite difficult to get off the ground. On reflection I do not share that assessment and while it may have been personally successful for the CEO/author of the book, it was done entirely at the expense of the customer and their experience. I would in fact consider renting software that takes up storage on your own hardware to be anti-consumer.

Re: VMware transition to subscription, end of sale of perpetual licenses

#65
I'm not sure I have clarity on this, but if your service and support agreement expires, do perpetual licenses get locked out of esxi patching? It's unclear based on what they're saying. Update VIBs were always available even to foundation and essentials, but companies like HPE paywall locked bios updates and certain support installer a few years ago and even legally went after people for distributing them. We usually use use the commands from https://esxi-patches.v-front.de/ to run updates. We use vmware 6.7 and 7 extensively for small business along with Veeam to make recovery and snapshotting better.

Re: VMware transition to subscription, end of sale of perpetual licenses

#66

My heart goes out to all of the institutions that are about to get hammered by this change, but I would by lying if I said I wasn't excited about a potential increase in investment in open source cloud virtualization infrastructure. Proxmox seems poised to benefit from this; is Openstack in a situation where it could be reasonably rolled out as a substitute for vSphere without requiring significant staff increases?

proxmox is presently not an alternative to the VMWare stack. Not even close. Converting from the VMWare stack⭢ proxmox would be a giant shitshow. I have been a paying user of WMware personally since the beginning and I have worked on their enterprise stack for several years. With the changes being made I cant see myself wanting to spend any personal money on it I and I would not recommend someone to start fresh with…

Microsoft is ending mainstream support of Hyper-V Server 2019 on January 9, 2024 and extended support will end on January 9, 2029. Hyper-V Server 2019 will be the last version of this product and Microsoft is encouraging customers to transition to Azure Stack HCI.

Re: VMware transition to subscription, end of sale of perpetual licenses

#67
Soon we will have reached the point where software piracy is the only way not to build your company on digital quicksand. I sincerely hope we never get there because it would ruin the commercial software market, which did produce amazing tools in the past. But by now, it certainly looks like major participants are boosting their last remaining quarters (before the company implodes) by scorching the earth they walk on. First Unity, now VMWare. I really have no idea why a CEO might think it to be a good long-term strategy to throw the majority of your past customers under a bus.

Re: VMware transition to subscription, end of sale of perpetual licenses

#68

You know, I always used to think that e.g. Amazon talking about “customer obsession” was stupid. Of course a business is focused on its customers? That’s where the money comes from? Then I got to see the conversation about subscriptions at VMware. The storyline was always “wouldn’t it be great for us if we switched to subscriptions? Look how good all the math gets!” The customer barely appeared as a background charac…

At most companies it is an uphill battle to advocate on behalf of the customer. It's really important that those values start at the top, and get support at all levels of management.

The best story I heard on this was from Zappos and Tony Hsieh. Zappos was famously customer focused (which probably played a big roll in Amazon acquiring them). The story goes that after a night of drinking they had someone call Zappos to find pizza for them, and Zappos customers services helped them out (not knowing the CEO was there listening).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ5k_Byd9Fs&t=2296

Re: VMware transition to subscription, end of sale of perpetual licenses

#69
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, OpenStack is very much not a great competitor. If you can afford an expert to set it up for you, great! Otherwise, prepare to invest in other ways. I'm not going to say VMware has a super intuitive system, but I've gotten surprisingly far at times without a lot of deep knowledge. Well, until the *nix-like kernel in the hypervisor misbehaves....

The setup is not too complicated with something like https://opendev.org/openstack/devstack

devstack is for dev work, expect nothing to persist.

If you want a deployment choose something like openstack-ansible.

Re: VMware transition to subscription, end of sale of perpetual licenses

#70

We're entering a post-growth economy in the near future, so the only way for companies to have reliable revenue streams is to create subscription services. Get ready because y'all are about to be rundled to death.

Yeah, just pirate and crack everything at some point.
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