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Why are people obsessed with “breaking into” Apple’s walled garden? There are already secure cross platform messaging services like Signal or WhatsApp that has feature parity with iMessage. This is a solved problem that doesn’t need another solution.

US Americans love iMessage, nobody knows why.

Holdover of them being obsessed with SMS for some reason too.

I remember having to pay 20c per SMS and 50c per MMS before IMs on phones became a thing. Wasn't hard for literally everyone to want to change to the first available client which for most people was WhatsApp, 2 years before iMessage was even released. Guess messaging was so cheap in the US that they didn't have a good enough reason to hop on the IM train for years.

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> iPhone customers desperately want to be able to chat together is also laughably false lol. iPhone users just want android users to get an iphone.

Yes, because Apple has very successfully manipulated iPhone users into thinking this. It's both impressive and depressing how effectively Apple has achieved this marketing goal.

doesn't matter why

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> iPhone customers desperately want to be able to chat together is also laughably false lol. iPhone users just want android users to get an iphone.

Facts. US iPhone users are so incredibly entitled, the suggestion that they're going to move to a third party app to accommodate Android users is laughable.

I am surprised my statement was so controversial tbh. It is exceedingly obvious if you talk to hot women lol, and they are pretty much are what determines how mainstream people are going to talk to each other.

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Wild the Apple pundits who were weirdly angry about this app acting completely disgusted someone would do this. So strange to see that attitude from the Apple community when some of us are old enough to remember when Apple wasn't in a position of power and we absolutely relied on these sort of projects to exist and work in a Windows dominant world.

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It’s not just about that. I want to be able to use my Apple message id on other devices.

I want to be able to send messages from Signal to WhatsApp! Alas, I am not entitled to that.

What? That’s not even the same thing. I can install signal on all my devices. I can’t do the same with messages. It’s about device vendor lock in.

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The Beeper vs Apple battle is already getting the attention of US legislators https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/10/senator-warren-calls-out-a...

There's something funny about Warren posting on Twitter while shouting about antitrust. I really wish government wouldn't make public announcements on closed platforms. ----- That aside, it seems like an easy way around that would just be for Apple to adopt RCS in addition to iMessage.

> I really wish government wouldn't make public announcements on closed platforms.

Unlike Apple, the government has to meet the people where they are.

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With that logic you would expect Apple to never make acquisitions. They've got the money in the bank to do just about anything.

I should have said it explicitly, but there was an implicit "couldn't do themselves in a reasonable amount of time". If the rumors are true, Apple already has iMessage running on Android, they just haven't released it yet. They used to support AIM and other messaging services, so they're no stranger to cross-platform messaging apps. The could probably pull together a Beeper competitor pretty quickly.

Nobody at Apple would want to work on a second-class citizen app. That's why they'd acquire a company to do it and maintain it.

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That might be true but they're also dragging their feet with RCS in Google Fi (still only partial support - have to disable Fi cloud sync).

Google fi works fine on messages and uses rcs.

Not if you have cloud syncing enabled - as I noted in my post and just rechecked on my phone to be sure.
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