Lets go back to C guys
The Case for Memory Safe Roadmaps
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#42The truth about [Unix and] the C language:
https://www-users.york.ac.uk/~ss44/joke/c.htm
#joke #hilarious
Re: The Case for Memory Safe Roadmaps
#43But how are we going to trade stocks in nano seconds without C++?!
A lot of shops do this in Java. Rust and Zig are usable but nobody's going to switch.
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#44Their "Appendix: Memory Safe Languages" lists: C#, Go, Java, Python, Rust & Swift
Ada people scratching their heads....
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
what do we do about javascript?
Judging from HN, just use HTML instead.
HTML, the Programming language, right?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38519719
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#46At least my usecase has C completely disconnected from the internet. I have no idea how this is going to work at the OS level.
A lot of industrial automation was built with an offline usecase in mind. Then someone invented the IIoT.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the uptake of Rust as far as Linux kernel dev goes? Is it being positively welcomed and seeing a rise in usage or is it still at PoC stage? Any ongoing rewrites of important subsystems?
So far 61 files [0], vs 52k for C, so about 0.1%. [0]: https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Atorvalds%2Flinux++languag...
It may not be much at the moment, but the thing that I find encouraging is that there seems to be very little pushback against it; the sanity of the Rust approach is very much accepted now.
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Next thing they'll be giving requirements for people building bridges, houses, and gas and electricity fittings. Seriously, I think the time has long since passed software needs regulating. It's a major part of modern society, and as far as I'm aware, most people aren't opposed to building standards in principle.
People figured out how to build buildings prior to creating building codes
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Based on early days of Rust in the Linux kernel, the segmentation of safe and unsafe code can significantly reduce the surface area within a kernel.
What's the uptake of Rust as far as Linux kernel dev goes? Is it being positively welcomed and seeing a rise in usage or is it still at PoC stage? Any ongoing rewrites of important subsystems?
Most of the interesting work is not yet upstreamed. A particularly interesting example is the Apple Sillicon GPU driver in Asahi Linux.
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#50Their "Appendix: Memory Safe Languages" lists: C#, Go, Java, Python, Rust & Swift
Why is Python listed there and not other languages like Ruby, Javascript or Perl?
Commenting bc I had the same question.
My impression of historical Python is that is an old, partially arcane language that due to D.S/AI is now popular; I would initially think it would be no better than those other interpreted. Python does these things well... mainly due to pandas/dataframes/polars.