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Fresh CS graduate wages down 20 percent

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Re: Fresh CS graduate wages down 20 percent

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Post by poshj »

timr wrote: post #27
poshj wrote: post #5

Hi guys, I want to know how much exactly do fresh CS graduate(B.Sc) gets in US nowadays? I'm based in Japan, and we will get 2147 USD(200k yen) for base salary only no matter how good you are. It seems very cheap :( since the high living cost here. The yearly bonus is about 4~5 months of base salary, but you don't usually get it unless you are really recognized by the management team. EDIT: I must say, this is also t…

I made more than $2100 a month as a grad student -- and we weren't paid very well.

Hmm.. What can I say man :(

for CS grad student, the base salary is only $200/month different from undergrad (without calculating the yearly bonus).

Re: Fresh CS graduate wages down 20 percent

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Post by teej »

litewulf wrote: post #8
smanek wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It varies greatly on skill/pedigree (the two often, but not always, correlate). If you are poor to average you'll start at $50K-70k/year. If you're average to good you'll start at 70k-90k, and 90k+ if you're particularly good (about 150K is the maximum I've heard of, and that's more in modeling or quantitative development than straight programming). About a 10% bonus is normal in my experience, but that obviously var…

+1 sounds about right. My offers were 80k to 120k. (I'd say I went to a pretty decent university, but I wasn't too amazing.) There is massive massive variance based on the kind of position you are talking about. I would say your numbers seem about right, though with the caveat that CS graduates can end up doing all sorts of things from IT-gruntwork-level tasks to rank and file software engineers, all the way to, yes,…

I'd take a gamble and say that the name of the unversity is much more likely to effect your offer than grades. And even then, it probably doesn't scale down. As a hiring manager, you either went to a school I recognize or you didn't.

Re: Fresh CS graduate wages down 20 percent

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Post by teej »

poshj wrote: post #30
pg wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$2100 a month? That is extremely cheap by US standards.

Yeah, I feel cheap too, but it's almost like the standard here :( Unless you enter google or bulge bracket banks, you won't get too far from $2k/month base salary here. Just my curiosity, did you find this cheap after reading my other comment too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=385479 ? And btw, by CS graduate I meant B.Eng. or B.Sc. not M.Eng or M.Sc. So, Is it save to assume that entry level programmer will ge…

I got more then $2100/month doing a phone support job at a small company in a suburban area practically out of high school. Without a college degree I was able to get over $5000/month in an urban area doing web development with no prior "experence".

All four of my friends who just graduated in CS are getting g about the same (55k-65k) in various markets at big companes.

Re: Fresh CS graduate wages down 20 percent

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Post by litewulf »

teej wrote: post #34
litewulf wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 sounds about right. My offers were 80k to 120k. (I'd say I went to a pretty decent university, but I wasn't too amazing.) There is massive massive variance based on the kind of position you are talking about. I would say your numbers seem about right, though with the caveat that CS graduates can end up doing all sorts of things from IT-gruntwork-level tasks to rank and file software engineers, all the way to, yes,…

I'd take a gamble and say that the name of the unversity is much more likely to effect your offer than grades. And even then, it probably doesn't scale down. As a hiring manager, you either went to a school I recognize or you didn't.

I don't know if anyone ever looked at my GPA. (It might be on my resume, and "they" might have filtered resumes with some hard GPA cutoff) It usually came down to my interviews and such I think.

Re: Fresh CS graduate wages down 20 percent

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Post by wheels »

bd wrote: post #33
PStamatiou wrote: post #6

I wouldn't put much weight on this.. it's a 3 sentence blog post without much backing.

This is from Phillip Greenspun's blog, so it has more credibility than if it would be just some random blogger. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_Greenspun

No it doesn't. It's still just an anecdote.

Re: Fresh CS graduate wages down 20 percent

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Post by bd »

wheels wrote: post #37
bd wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is from Phillip Greenspun's blog, so it has more credibility than if it would be just some random blogger. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_Greenspun

No it doesn't. It's still just an anecdote.

Credibility of the anecdote, title is a bunk.
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