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Epic vs. Google: Google Loses

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Re: Epic vs. Google: Google Loses

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Post by DeIlliad »

favorited wrote: post #19
wnevets wrote: post #8

Didn't Apple effectively win their lawsuit while having an actual monopoly on iPhone app installs? Can someone explain why Google lost despite android having all sorts of way to install apps while bypassing the play store?

From the article: > But Epic v. Google turned out to be a very different case. It hinged on secret revenue sharing deals between Google, smartphone makers, and big game developers, ones that Google execs internally believed were designed to keep rival app stores down. It showed that Google was running scared of Epic specifically. And it was all decided by a jury, unlike the Apple ruling.

We learned in the Epic v. Apple trial that Apple cut sweetheart deals with Netflix and other companies as well. Am I missing how this is different?

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Post by plussed_reader »

superb_dev wrote: post #38
throwaway87543 wrote: post #3

Pardon me, didn’t Apple win the exact same suit by Epic? Apple’s app store is fine, but Google’s isn’t?

The system is still working, just slowly. Conflicting rulings from lower courts in very similar cases will be appealed and get put before the Supreme Court, whose ruling will apply to everyone

It's always leg day in Chief Justice Alito's kangaroo court.

Re: Epic vs. Google: Google Loses

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Post by shmerl »

vlozko wrote: post #36
shmerl wrote: post #29

Apple should be punished for this more than Google. Google doesn't ban competing browsers, Apple does.

It’s because Google did a lot of things that Apple didn’t that was found to be anti-competitive. https://www.theverge.com/23959932/epic-v-google-trial-antitr...

I'm sure they did their own stuff, but Apple got away with a very nasty one. So I don't think competition law works. Results look completely random, like tossing a coin.

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Post by solardev »

superb_dev wrote: post #38
throwaway87543 wrote: post #3

Pardon me, didn’t Apple win the exact same suit by Epic? Apple’s app store is fine, but Google’s isn’t?

The system is still working, just slowly. Conflicting rulings from lower courts in very similar cases will be appealed and get put before the Supreme Court, whose ruling will apply to everyone

If they even deign to hear it. Do the supremes even know what a smartphone is? I've never seen a more out of touch bunch of people with so much power.

Re: Epic vs. Google: Google Loses

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Post by bilekas »

I'm not sure how I feel about this, on the one hand monopolies are obviously very anti consumer, but I do see Google's point of securing the already questionable appStore. But surely there's a happy medium in there to simply allow 3rd party payment processing?

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Post by fallingknife »

reilly3000 wrote: post #50

Assuming this ruling stands, and the pattern is extended to Apple as well, what does a multi-app-store world look like? How does one "install" a new app store, what sort of permissions does it get? Who can start a new app store? What risks does a user accept when they do business with a 3rd party store? I for one would welcome a mobile store from Valve, Epic etc, especially if I could have my purchases work on multip…

It looks like the world before app stores. Anybody can develop software and sell it to anyone, who can then install it on any compatible device.

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Post by fbdab103 »

dvngnt_ wrote: post #31
rsweeney21 wrote: post #27

This is huge! I've had so many business ideas that I've killed at the idea stage because giving 30% of revenue to Apple or Google made it not viable. Might be time to revisit them...

> This is huge! > I've had so many business ideas that I've killed at the idea stage because giving 30% of revenue to Apple or Google made it not viable. > Might be time to revisit them... name 3?

If the profitability situation is about to change, seems like a poor time to reveal killer ideas.

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Post by fbdab103 »

bilekas wrote: post #49
rsweeney21 wrote: post #27

This is huge! I've had so many business ideas that I've killed at the idea stage because giving 30% of revenue to Apple or Google made it not viable. Might be time to revisit them...

This seems a great excuse to blame Instead of procrastination to me.. So 70% revenue was not enough to get something off the ground?

People complain about credit card fees in the range of 2%. 30% lost to the ether could absolutely kill some otherwise profitable ideas in the crib.
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