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Apple hijacked SMS. You can't CHOOSE to send SMS. If your phone is tied to a computer for a shared imessage account, if you're outside with your phone alone (while computer is online) the phone cannot receive text messages. (The sender ios device presumes 'success' in sending the message because it is received by the computer. It does not have the ability to send just sms). So, i'm all for anything that shakes up mes…
I mean you can literally just set the iMessage toggle to 'Off' on your phone It's not even buried. Settings -> Messages -> iMessage == Off
How would that be done?
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> From everything I've read on the matter, I believe that the UX nightmare when you include a non-apple user is an intentional design choice, rather than an engineering problem that hasn't been solved. I'd be sure this was why, if Google hadn't once tried to get me to use a combo SMS/MMS + some-other-Google-messaging-service app on my phone (by replacing the normal SMS app on OS upgrade—this was on a Nexus phone) tha…
> iMessage is easily good enough that I haven't had to go find some alternative SMS app (Almost) nobody here is challenging that it is, under the condition that you communicate exclusively with iPhone users . MMS group chats are an absolute dumpster fire from an UX point of view. In some countries, a single MMS costs about half an USD as well (per recipient)!
> MMS group chats are an absolute dumpster fire from an UX point of view. In some countries, a single MMS costs about half an USD as well (per recipient)!
Yes, agreed, I’ve never seen it not be awful.
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Apple hijacked SMS. You can't CHOOSE to send SMS. If your phone is tied to a computer for a shared imessage account, if you're outside with your phone alone (while computer is online) the phone cannot receive text messages. (The sender ios device presumes 'success' in sending the message because it is received by the computer. It does not have the ability to send just sms). So, i'm all for anything that shakes up mes…
you can choose; there's an option buried in settings somewhere
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Apple hijacked SMS. You can't CHOOSE to send SMS. If your phone is tied to a computer for a shared imessage account, if you're outside with your phone alone (while computer is online) the phone cannot receive text messages. (The sender ios device presumes 'success' in sending the message because it is received by the computer. It does not have the ability to send just sms). So, i'm all for anything that shakes up mes…
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201349
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Apple hijacked SMS. You can't CHOOSE to send SMS. If your phone is tied to a computer for a shared imessage account, if you're outside with your phone alone (while computer is online) the phone cannot receive text messages. (The sender ios device presumes 'success' in sending the message because it is received by the computer. It does not have the ability to send just sms). So, i'm all for anything that shakes up mes…
> You can't CHOOSE to send SMS You can turn off iMessage and force sms unless you are referring to something else.
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It’s free. The fact it’s only available on Apple devices doesn’t change that fact. You can only get Apple Fitness on Apple devices, but you also have to pay for it.
Seems a silly distinction. So you're saying Beeper could make paper clips, sell them to you for $2/m, and then give you Beeper Mini for free and you'd consider it free? Imo the only thing that should be done here is only valid Apple IDs should be able to use this service. Then paying customers are the ones using it. Problem solved, right?
1) you have a device
2) you have software
If you buy the software, it is paid.
If you do not buy the software, its free.
If the software is not available for your device that does make it not free; you just have an incompatible device.
Any other take on this is subscribing to some bias.
Paper clips, are not relevant.
There is a distinction, to be fair, between “free open source software” which is free and you can take it and port it to your device if you want.
…but no one is claiming iMessage is FOSS, and when someone says it is “free”, that is not what they mean.
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Yeah, what? I grew up (in the same era) using AIM and Yahoo, ICQ was a little before my prime. Everyone I talk to about those days used them as well. MSN was fine but AIM and Yahoo were where it was at for the bulk of my early years of instant messaging with friends. At one point a friend even made me an AIM account because I was using MSN and they wanted to chat with me but didn't want to do it through MSN. Obviousl…
Like today, it was highly regional. The talk about Beeper Mini sounds ridiculous in the UK because literally nobody uses iMessage. IIRC AIM was popular in America and MSN was popular in Europe.
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Why are you entitled to use Apple's messaging servers without paying for access?
People are willing to pay but Apple won't take their money.