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> iPhone customers desperately want to be able to chat together is also laughably false lol. iPhone users just want android users to get an iphone.
...in the US. The rest of the world uses Telegram, WhatsApp and Signal. This blue/green bubble SMS but not SMS -thing is a 100% an American issue.
Stuff like this feels petty by all parties. Use an app that’s already universal if users are so desperate. Playing whack a mole back and forth over a chat app as if it’s some high minded fight for speech when countless options exist is melodrama for the sake of melodrama and engagement farming Beeper real goal is like everyone else in tech; get rich. It found the perfect marketing meme, the old David and Goliath stor…
The only thing end users really have control over is their own client. I don't know if they'll succeed in the long run, but I'm really rooting for beeper
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In the US, sure. Very few of the people in Earth live there.
But how many of apples users live there?
I really don’t think Apple consider iMessage exclusivity that important.
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> iPhone customers desperately want to be able to chat together is also laughably false lol. iPhone users just want android users to get an iphone.
It’s false based on what? Your own anecdotal experience? I have a friend group that has iPhones and Androids. We went on vacation and had to jump through so many hoops just to share our pictures. We don’t care what devices everybody uses, because why the heck should that matter? The fact that it can be simple to share high fidelity pictures and videos, but it isn’t just because Apple wants their walled garden benefit…
The whole green bubble thing with Android SMS on iPhone is a problem, but the solution is to get everyone to use a different chat app. Apple will never give this up. Google could be leading that charge and providing a world beating chat app that works across all phones and all desktop devices. They have every reason to provide the best chat app in the world and yank iPhone users over to it. Instead they have given up…
And how do you do that?
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> iPhone customers desperately want to be able to chat together is also laughably false lol. iPhone users just want android users to get an iphone.
Facts. US iPhone users are so incredibly entitled, the suggestion that they're going to move to a third party app to accommodate Android users is laughable.
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A $3T monopolist sending scary C&D letters tends to get the attention of the government.
If it was obviously bogus (think SLAPP territory) then that would make sense, but I don't think it is as likely to get their attention if the offending behavior can reasonably be classified as a potential violation of the CFAA. (Whether it is a violation or not, I certainly couldn't say, but my point being that there is a reasonable good faith interpretation of the behavior that would not raise eyebrows.)
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I'd be willing to put up with it if it were free, like the good ol MSN messenger / AIM days.
It is free
> We currently offer a 7 day free trial, afterwards there is a $1.99 per month subscription. Beeper Mini is available to download today with no waitlist.
That doesn't sound free to me. Am I missing something?
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Did AOL really win in the end though? My youth was in the late 90s and 2000s and I don’t know a single soul that used AOL, ICQ, or Yahoo. I imagine all of them must have been hoping for the reverse at that point, access to MSN.
Yeah, what? I grew up (in the same era) using AIM and Yahoo, ICQ was a little before my prime. Everyone I talk to about those days used them as well. MSN was fine but AIM and Yahoo were where it was at for the bulk of my early years of instant messaging with friends. At one point a friend even made me an AIM account because I was using MSN and they wanted to chat with me but didn't want to do it through MSN. Obviousl…
IIRC AIM was popular in America and MSN was popular in Europe.