Is it possible to install macos in a virtual machine and use iMessages?
not anymore
Beeper Mini is back
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#732I’m curious what their best-case outcome is here. It’s fully transparent at this point that Apple has no appetite for a third party iMessage client on any platform and will take whatever technical steps needed to prevent this from happening. I’d wager heavily that even if Beeper plays cat-and-mouse to the point where they’ve exhausted Apple’s budget for blocking them and somehow managed to avoid Apple’s legal team pu…
we've seen this play out so many times. It's over.
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#733> Messages will be sent and received via your email address rather than phone number. [...] Even worse, when iPhone customers added an Android phone number to an existing iMessage secure encrypted group chat, the Messages app would by default switch the entire group chat to using unencrypted, unsecure SMS. These two Messages features combine to create a terrible UX. When someone starts a group chat in Messages and in…
It hardly matters, almost everyone on earth uses WhatsApp for group chats.
Source? Of the many group chats I'm involved in, exactly one of them uses WhatsApp.
(I'm American, for context.)
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#734Some useful history, the AOL/MSN chat wars: https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-19/essays/chat-wars/ AOL finally "won" that one by making a buffer exploit in their own client part of the required protocol. Later a court required them to allow messaging interop (as part of the Time Warner merger). They never implemented it.
Did AOL really win in the end though? My youth was in the late 90s and 2000s and I don’t know a single soul that used AOL, ICQ, or Yahoo. I imagine all of them must have been hoping for the reverse at that point, access to MSN.
Everybody was on all three for me. That being AIM and ICQ then later MSN. I don't remember much Yahoo messenger usage, just gaming on Yahoo, but everyone was on ICQ.
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I'm not American and I've never seen anyone use WhatsApp. I only use it to text my family back in Morocco. Facebook Messenger is even more universal than WhatsApp in my experience
Sure, that one is popular too. My point was that almost no one uses iMessage group chats.
That's obviously not true or we wouldn't be having many of these discussions.
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I'm not American and I've never seen anyone use WhatsApp. I only use it to text my family back in Morocco. Facebook Messenger is even more universal than WhatsApp in my experience
Sure, that one is popular too. My point was that almost no one uses iMessage group chats.
Agreed that I don't get the entire "iMessages is essential". I also have never seen it been used, I'm a zoomer and most of my friends use iPhones, but with snapchat or anything else for group messages. Maybe it's a generational thing!
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#737Is it possible to install macos in a virtual machine and use iMessages?
Yes it is. Hackintosh users have no problem using iMessage or FaceTime.
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It hardly matters, almost everyone on earth uses WhatsApp for group chats.
Source? Of the many group chats I'm involved in, exactly one of them uses WhatsApp. (I'm American, for context.)
In the US, sure. Very few of the people in Earth live there.
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They only thorn they're creating for Apple is forcing them to do anticompetitive things while they're being investigated for anticompetitive practices in places like the EU. In terms of technical problems, Apple will likely be able to keep up their end of the arms race with less than 1/2 of a single developer's time. The cost to continue patching Beeper out of their systems will be a fraction of a rounding error for…
I doubt that this can be done that easily without recklessly endangering the experience of their 1+ billion users. Beeper on the other hand has far fewer users, who by now likely expect a bad experience. Beeper can be way more agile.
Apple doesn't need to break backward compatibility to block Beeper, they just need a way to fingerprint traffic from Beeper which is going to be trivial unless Beeper finds a 100% on-device solution.
Even then, it'll still be pretty easy because Apple has trillions of interactions with Apple devices to analyze and compare against Beeper.