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Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by smallnix »

dash2 wrote: post #213
inamberclad wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the long-term potential supposed to be? Is Mastodon supposed to replace Twitter, or is it supposed to enhance the lives of people? I'm a member of several small forums that just don't grow. It's the same people each day, and that's fine. It's much closer to how human interactions work in real life. You don't join an ever-expanding pool of people where you strive to maximize your connections (or at least, I do…

This argument confuses “everybody hangs out with just a few people” with ”a few people hang out with a few people”. The former is a cool idea, sure, but the latter is just a description of a not-very-successful service. I mean, I like my local pub, but it isn’t HN-worthy. Social media is valuable, that’s why people use it. It would be nice if we end up coordinating on social media that aren’t toxic or addictive. Unfo…

So a system that enables thousand if not millions of "pubs" would be HN worthy? From what I understand that is mastodon and this article is a success story of a single instance/"pub".

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by sedatk »

monkeywork wrote: post #185
footlose_3815 wrote: post #139

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Github pages is free. A .info domain is $5/year. That's already more than half the features you get with this, and you get to be on the actual internet, not some dude's silo. As the post's age goes on, I see more criticism, and less positive reactions.

>That's already more than half the features you get with this, and you get to be on the actual internet, not some dude's silo. "the actual internet" ??

> "the actual internet" ??

Microsoft's silo, they mean.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by rapnie »

burkaman wrote: post #74
PenguinRevolver wrote: post #34

It's nice, the only problem I got with omg.lol is that Wayback Machine archives are unavailable for all domains. I'm concerned that this part of the internet won't be saved for others to see in the future.

The creator's company website is also excluded: https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://neatnik.... . Maybe some philosophical disagreement?

This blocking of the archiver may be philosophical, but not a disgreement. Just speculating, but on the fediverse there are quite a few people who feel their social interactions are personal and 'in the moment'. Something akin to the Cozy Web [0] though not being too strict about (everything is still public after all).

[0] https://maggieappleton.com/cozy-web

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by famahar »

Looks fun. I'm considering signing up but I think I'd just be more happy not having a heavy online presence. Twitter falling apart made me really enjoy being offline and connecting with friends and family. Small community is key I find. omg seems like the right direction in this regard.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by CaptArmchair »

rusk wrote: post #246
computerex wrote: post #230

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>... we have not restricted contractors’ own use or disclosure of that information or data. We are not responsible for the conduct or policies of Stripe, or other contractors. I mean this seems pretty suspect for anyone privacy focused.

Also not legal in Europe where you absolutely are responsible for the actions of your processors

> Section 8.6 GDPR

> Part b. omg.lol does not believe its processing of limited personal data of those outside the United States (if any) brings it within the jurisdiction of these laws.

That's a hard disclaimer if there's any.

I read that as: if you're a European user, we do not believe you can legally enforce us to honor your rights, even though we operate within the EEA.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by rapnie »

rglullis wrote: post #143
kibwen wrote: post #71

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If you can live without video and images, you could comfortably host even a very large forum (on the order of the top 10% of subreddits by volume) with only a $5/month VPS, as long as you made it serve static pages and were judicious with your tech stack. The cost of hosting text alone wasn't prohibitive 20 years ago, and it's even less so today.

Media is (ought) to be stored in a shared, content addressable storage system like torrent magnet links and IPFS. Backed by something like Tahoe-LAFS.

OT, but via the UI design thread on HN, I just bumped into noosphere protocol, which claims to be just like what you describe here.

https://subconscious.substack.com/p/noosphere-a-protocol-for...

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by cderpz »

rusk wrote: post #246
computerex wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>... we have not restricted contractors’ own use or disclosure of that information or data. We are not responsible for the conduct or policies of Stripe, or other contractors. I mean this seems pretty suspect for anyone privacy focused.

Also not legal in Europe where you absolutely are responsible for the actions of your processors

>omg.lol does not believe its processing of limited personal data of those outside the United States (if any) brings it within the jurisdiction of these laws.

Oh dear. That is definitely not correct. The only way for omg.lol to not fall under the jurisdiction of the GDPR is to not offer their services to people living where it applies.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by jay-barronville »

proxyon wrote: post #241
shusaku wrote: post #131

That’s a fun set of features, but I don’t see the connection with the community. You can browse their mastodon feed and it’s just a bunch of vaguely liberal vaguely tech posts? I’d like to see which accounts are using the services for a better community

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Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by elxx »

smsm42 wrote: post #228

Opened the front page of the "community of the nicest, most interesting people". Here's what I found, omitting some jokes, "dear diary", etc (profanity omitted, light rephrasing to keep it short): AI is taking our jobs Trump is a liar MAGA republicans are plotting against democracy and Trump is Putin's puppet Trump is bad AOC is cool, she's showing that evil GOP Twitter is dying Christians are hateful bigots Republic…

Anyone can look at the live feed here and see that this is made up:

https://social.lol/public/local

I had to scroll through over 24 hours of posts before hitting anything political, an article about abortion in Texas. Definitely not the majority of the content and it took way more scrolling than a couple of screens. I still haven't seen anything else on your list yet.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by robertlagrant »

jim-jim-jim wrote: post #154
shusaku wrote: post #131

That’s a fun set of features, but I don’t see the connection with the community. You can browse their mastodon feed and it’s just a bunch of vaguely liberal vaguely tech posts? I’d like to see which accounts are using the services for a better community

That's the shortcoming of every alternative protocol and "indie web" community I've come across. They only attract existing techies and have a weird sheen of forced kindness about them. If you're just chatting with other programmers under American HR communication standards, then how is it any different to work? The true magic of the early web was somebody genius but decidedly untechnical like David Bowie shitposting…

> guess who the early colonizers of these alt platforms are

Sorry - what is "colonizer" here? Do you mean users?

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