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Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by jodrellblank »

erxam wrote: post #51
1B05H1N wrote: post #40

Sorry, why would I pay 20/year bucks for this when I have my own website/infra?

Even without taking into account the time investment in maintaining your own infra, it compares favorably with everything else. Even the most dirt-cheap VPS is a few bucks more expensive on a yearly basis by itself, and you still have to buy domains and similar. Running your own infra only really works out if you either have access to great hardware for super-cheap or WANT the experience from setting everything up.

> "Even the most dirt-cheap VPS is a few bucks more expensive on a yearly basis by itself"

Not if you get a Black Friday special; here[1] was $14.95/year for 40GB SSD, 1GB RAM, 1TB monthly bandwidth, 1CPU core.

RackNerd were offering $10.28/year[2] for 10GB SSD storage, 768MB RAM.

Hudson Valley offered $8/year[3] for 10GB SSD and 512MB RAM

[1] https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190984/from-14-95-yr-10-gb...

[2] https://lowendbox.com/best-cheap-vps-hosting-updated-2020/ (sold out)

[3] https://lowendbox.com/blog/are-you-serious-hudson-valley-hos...

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by meepmorp »

AlexAffe wrote: post #83
camdenlock wrote: post #46

> I don’t know why; probably a curious desire to see how bad Elon Musk would screw it up It’s been interesting to watch people go from nerd-crushing on Elon (omg rockets! omg electric vehicles yay climate!) to loathing him in the blink of an eye. Goes to show what’s really important to some people…

Elon bashing is 99% some companies campaign. There is an amount of money involved beyond our wildest imagination. World economy kind of money. You don't read Elon and Tesla content on reddit frontpage with 30k ups on average almost 24/7 without there being companies involved spending heavily.

Instead of a conspiracy or coordinated campaign against Elon Musk, what if a lot of people have come to think that he's a douchebag and upvote links about him saying/doing what they see as douchey things? Maybe he's actually done some stuff over the last few years that's made him genuinely unpopular with a lot of people; maybe it's not because "They" are trying to destroy him, but because many people actually find his behavior off-putting.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by soulofmischief »

lannisterstark wrote: post #10
cianmm wrote: post #2

I've been using Omg.lol for around a year now (Cian.lol) and am really enjoying it. It's just so simple - it feels like travelling back in time to when we wrote blog posts and made websites to share with our friends, not to Create Content.

I skimmed OPs post, and then read yours, and I'm still a bit confused as to how it's different than just hosting a mishmash of different but related services yourself. If you could not, yes that's fine. But if you could, what really are the advantages?

Just because I can manage a service doesn't mean I want to all the time. I'm a busy guy and already have client infrastructure to manage. At a point in my life where I'm trying to cut down on things I have to tend to.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by Cyberdog »

jodrellblank wrote: post #91
erxam wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even without taking into account the time investment in maintaining your own infra, it compares favorably with everything else. Even the most dirt-cheap VPS is a few bucks more expensive on a yearly basis by itself, and you still have to buy domains and similar. Running your own infra only really works out if you either have access to great hardware for super-cheap or WANT the experience from setting everything up.

> " Even the most dirt-cheap VPS is a few bucks more expensive on a yearly basis by itself " Not if you get a Black Friday special; here[1] was $14.95/year for 40GB SSD, 1GB RAM, 1TB monthly bandwidth, 1CPU core. RackNerd were offering $10.28/year[2] for 10GB SSD storage, 768MB RAM. Hudson Valley offered $8/year[3] for 10GB SSD and 512MB RAM [1] https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190984/from-14-95-yr-10-gb... [2] http…

As with many other things, I'd advise against picking a VPS plan based on price alone.

I've found Vultr to be both affordable and of consistent quality for my modest needs (personal and business web hosting plus IRC bouncing). I pay about $5/mo or $60/year.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by jay-barronville »

reddalo wrote: post #31
jay-barronville wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s 2023, is that still a reasonable concern? No. A LOT has changed in the world of PHP over the years. And to be honest, I give credit to amazing frameworks like Laravel [0] for giving PHP a massive facelift (I consider Taylor Otwell one of my software heroes). Overall though, modern PHP software is much cleaner and more secure than whatever you knew from years ago. [0]: https://laravel.com

I agree about Laravel and Taylor Otwell. Moreover, I'd like to point out that even if the vast majority of PHP-backed websites are based on WordPress, WordPress is not an example of good PHP practices at all. Its code-base and coding standards are old and horrible.

Agreed re WordPress, although I haven’t seen their code in YEARS, so maybe their codebase has evolved too.

Re Taylor, if I was a billionaire (or at the very least, extremely wealthy), he’s one of those folks I’d write a no-strings-attached blank check to go build anything he wants—just a brilliant and overall great human. I used to be very active in the Laravel community many years ago, and even way back then, before Laravel was super famous (first Laracon days), I remember meeting Taylor and being thoroughly impressed. Over the years, on multiple occasions, I’ve heard folks at relatively large organizations say they adopted PHP solely because of Taylor and Laravel. Recently, when I saw someone mention in a post that Taylor has a Lambo now, I was so happy for him—it feels great to see him thrive after making the type of impact that he has.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by tredre3 »

jodrellblank wrote: post #91
erxam wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even without taking into account the time investment in maintaining your own infra, it compares favorably with everything else. Even the most dirt-cheap VPS is a few bucks more expensive on a yearly basis by itself, and you still have to buy domains and similar. Running your own infra only really works out if you either have access to great hardware for super-cheap or WANT the experience from setting everything up.

> " Even the most dirt-cheap VPS is a few bucks more expensive on a yearly basis by itself " Not if you get a Black Friday special; here[1] was $14.95/year for 40GB SSD, 1GB RAM, 1TB monthly bandwidth, 1CPU core. RackNerd were offering $10.28/year[2] for 10GB SSD storage, 768MB RAM. Hudson Valley offered $8/year[3] for 10GB SSD and 512MB RAM [1] https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190984/from-14-95-yr-10-gb... [2] http…

So to beat omg.lol's price you have to hunt for a bargain, then hope the price doesn't double in the following year?

Oh, and you also need to own a domain already, otherwise it's an extra 10-20 bucks per year.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by treyd »

damiante wrote: post #65

I love the idea of such smaller communities and the "old web" style of interaction, but for me the issue is one of discoverability. How do I find and follow people? Does anyone still use RSS, or are we relying on Mastodon/ActivityPub? Bavk in the day this was the purpose of search engines, but it seems that now such small pages are scarcely even indexed...

Fwiw, many feeds provided by Mastodon instances are available as RSS. Same for other Fedi software, like WriteFreely.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by acegopher »

damiante wrote: post #65

I love the idea of such smaller communities and the "old web" style of interaction, but for me the issue is one of discoverability. How do I find and follow people? Does anyone still use RSS, or are we relying on Mastodon/ActivityPub? Bavk in the day this was the purpose of search engines, but it seems that now such small pages are scarcely even indexed...

Check out the Kagi Small Web: https://blog.kagi.com/small-web

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by rd »

echelon wrote: post #59
contrarian1234 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's great.. archiving should be opt-in not opt-out You can read and access my work/words as I want. And once I don't or change my mind you can't. Once someone posts something, you don't have a right to it in perpetuity .. That's how things should work - but that's just my opinion

Vehement disagree. Many of the early communities I participated in are gone forever, and it's a shame to think of how much more has been lost to time. In the absolute limit, I hope our future descendents reconstruct the past light cone and can replay all of our biochemical thoughts and emotions. Perhaps even simulating our existence and perception to exacting precision. Maybe they'll get to see t-rexes in their natur…

I’ve had this exact thought a million times.

The first time I tripped acid - I remember writing a page of notes on how sad I felt that I would never get to experience the exact way a memory occurred to me in the past.

What’s even more saddening is that with tech like Rewind, and what’ll be the future of Rewind in 10-20 years, by 2040, I fully expect all memories/events ever produced to be logged in an almost endless database of all human experience.

But - because time is linear, we wouldn’t ever fully be able to simulate the past of say everything before 2030? And that’s just so sad.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by mmazing »

chongli wrote: post #79
damiante wrote: post #65

I love the idea of such smaller communities and the "old web" style of interaction, but for me the issue is one of discoverability. How do I find and follow people? Does anyone still use RSS, or are we relying on Mastodon/ActivityPub? Bavk in the day this was the purpose of search engines, but it seems that now such small pages are scarcely even indexed...

Discoverability and smallness are at odds. This problem isn’t specific to the internet. That quaint, beautiful postcard town does not remain so once it’s been discovered. Eternal September happens everywhere.

> Discoverability and smallness are at odds.

Is it really true on the internet though? omg.lol could presumably stay "small-appearing" and "quaint" and have millions of users. How could you really tell the difference?

If it were all indexed you could drill down and find people who share your interests, that doesn't necessarily ruin the website, yeah?

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