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Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by joshmanders »

reddalo wrote: post #31
jay-barronville wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s 2023, is that still a reasonable concern? No. A LOT has changed in the world of PHP over the years. And to be honest, I give credit to amazing frameworks like Laravel [0] for giving PHP a massive facelift (I consider Taylor Otwell one of my software heroes). Overall though, modern PHP software is much cleaner and more secure than whatever you knew from years ago. [0]: https://laravel.com

I agree about Laravel and Taylor Otwell. Moreover, I'd like to point out that even if the vast majority of PHP-backed websites are based on WordPress, WordPress is not an example of good PHP practices at all. Its code-base and coding standards are old and horrible.

That's because it tries to not break backwards compatibility and spoiler: past web people had horrible standards.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by unshavedyak »

floren wrote: post #35
unshavedyak wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's your motivation to endorse and you choose to use GPT to do so, i'd think so? Though i'm not clear how the quality of the writing is relevant to whether or not this is sincere.

If you can prompt GPT to write a blog post and you feel the results adequately represent your views, why not just post the prompt? "paste this into chatgpt 4 for the expanded version"

No idea, when i started this discussion i didn't come prepared to defend/discuss GPT lol. Don't really have an opinion on GPT.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by bbx »

bhasi wrote: post #60

The "web design in 4 min" linked to at the bottom of the page is very interesting.

I didn’t realise it was linked to in this article. I built that on a whim several years ago. It’s more about what can be done in 4 min rather than what’s being done. But I’m glad it inspired people to try to style their own website themselves.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by toomuchtodo »

politelemon wrote: post #53
PenguinRevolver wrote: post #34

It's nice, the only problem I got with omg.lol is that Wayback Machine archives are unavailable for all domains. I'm concerned that this part of the internet won't be saved for others to see in the future.

Just tried and I see someone else also tried after seeing your comment. > The same snapshot had been made 25 minutes ago. You can make new capture of this URL after 1 hour. But yeah it's strange, nothing appears in the archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://bw.omg.l...

It’s possible the site owner has asked the Archive to dark site specific captures. Capture jobs will still run, but they won’t be available publicly (until some future date).

You can always run your own crawls with grab site: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/grab-site

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by damiante »

I love the idea of such smaller communities and the "old web" style of interaction, but for me the issue is one of discoverability. How do I find and follow people? Does anyone still use RSS, or are we relying on Mastodon/ActivityPub? Bavk in the day this was the purpose of search engines, but it seems that now such small pages are scarcely even indexed...

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by kvathupo »

I like this.

That said, I doubt we'll ever escape towards subscription-based social media models due to the prohibitive costs of CDNs, bandwidth, and storage for video/images. But I suppose it's a question of ends: do we want everyone on social media?

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Post by TeMPOraL »

contrarian1234 wrote: post #54
PenguinRevolver wrote: post #34

It's nice, the only problem I got with omg.lol is that Wayback Machine archives are unavailable for all domains. I'm concerned that this part of the internet won't be saved for others to see in the future.

I think that's great.. archiving should be opt-in not opt-out You can read and access my work/words as I want. And once I don't or change my mind you can't. Once someone posts something, you don't have a right to it in perpetuity .. That's how things should work - but that's just my opinion

Except for the artifice that is copyright, things don't work like that for anything else. Reality doesn't work like that.

> Once someone posts something, you don't have a right to it in perpetuity

On the contrary, once someone posts something, they don't have control over it anymore. You can't make me unsee what you wrote, or unhear what you said. You have no right to stop me from writing it down, and even if you can stop me from republishing it verbatim right now, you generally don't have the right to do it indefinitely.

> And once I don't or change my mind you can't.

To be clear, I'm not dogmatically firm about it, but I believe that a word in which you get to distance yourself from past views, or mark them mistaken, and people accept it, would be much better than the world in which you're free to gaslight everyone else by pretending that something never happened, even though it did.

(All that on top of the usual point that it's neither the author nor their audience that can judge what's archive-worthy - only future people can.)

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by blakewatson »

bovermyer wrote: post #56
bovermyer wrote: post #32

I checked out Omg.lol when it first got popular on HN ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34269772 ). At the time, I thought it was an amalgamation of things I already did on my own or otherwise had a community for (e.g., Neocities, Tilde Town). Now, though, I think I get it. There's something to be said for sustained energy.

OK, I bit. Here's my spot: https://dungeonhack.omg.lol/ I look forward to meeting you!

OP here, just wanted to say your tabletop links page is chef's kiss.
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