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Tesla drivers run Autopilot where it's not intended – with deadly consequences

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Re: Tesla drivers run Autopilot where it's not intended – with deadly consequences

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Why does the car allow self-driving in "conditions it's not intended"? It's not like the car doesn't have the sensors to know! Just disable it.

Because it is not legally enforced.

Why does the car allow overspeeding? Why does the car allow the driver to use a phone while driving?

In the end it’s the responsibility of the driver.

(I’m not saying I agree with this view, but this most probably the one behind Testla choice, as well as… cost, obviously).

Re: Tesla drivers run Autopilot where it's not intended – with deadly consequences

#12
post #4

Why does the car allow self-driving in "conditions it's not intended"? It's not like the car doesn't have the sensors to know! Just disable it.

Because it is not legally enforced. Why does the car allow overspeeding? Why does the car allow the driver to use a phone while driving? In the end it’s the responsibility of the driver. (I’m not saying I agree with this view, but this most probably the one behind Testla choice, as well as… cost, obviously).

They should probably call it something other than 'auto' pilot.

Re: Tesla drivers run Autopilot where it's not intended – with deadly consequences

#13
post #4

Why does the car allow self-driving in "conditions it's not intended"? It's not like the car doesn't have the sensors to know! Just disable it.

Not only would basic geo-fencing be simple, other mfrs have aleeady done it:

>Tesla’s commitment to driver independence and responsibility is different from some competitors, whose driver-assistance technologies are loaded with high-definition maps with rigorous levels of detail that can tip vehicles off to potential roadway hazards and obstructions. Some manufacturers, including Ford and General Motors, also only allow the technology to work on compatible roadways that have been meticulously mapped.

Re: Tesla drivers run Autopilot where it's not intended – with deadly consequences

#14
> NHTSA said it would be too complex and resource-intensive to verify that systems such as Tesla Autopilot are used within the conditions for which they are designed, and it potentially would not fix the problem.

So why not just TELL Tesla that it needs to operate within those conditions, and then enforce when it fails to do so? How can this regulatory body be so ass-backwards.

Re: Tesla drivers run Autopilot where it's not intended – with deadly consequences

#15
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it is not legally enforced. Why does the car allow overspeeding? Why does the car allow the driver to use a phone while driving? In the end it’s the responsibility of the driver. (I’m not saying I agree with this view, but this most probably the one behind Testla choice, as well as… cost, obviously).

They should probably call it something other than 'auto' pilot.

Well technically, it does pilot and “auto”.

Re: Tesla drivers run Autopilot where it's not intended – with deadly consequences

#17

https://archive.is/PentB

Is there any solution to the recaptcha loop?

Add an entry for it in /etc/hosts

https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/

TL;DR Operator of archive.is blocks DNS requests from providers who don't pass ECS information to them resulting in issues like the redirect loop.

Re: Tesla drivers run Autopilot where it's not intended – with deadly consequences

#18
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it is not legally enforced. Why does the car allow overspeeding? Why does the car allow the driver to use a phone while driving? In the end it’s the responsibility of the driver. (I’m not saying I agree with this view, but this most probably the one behind Testla choice, as well as… cost, obviously).

They should probably call it something other than 'auto' pilot.

Nah. Most autopilots in general aviation will gladly let you kill yourself by flying into terrain or stall while trying to climb. They actually do less than Tesla autopilot, since you usually still control the throttle.

Re: Tesla drivers run Autopilot where it's not intended – with deadly consequences

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post #4

Why does the car allow self-driving in "conditions it's not intended"? It's not like the car doesn't have the sensors to know! Just disable it.

Because it is not legally enforced. Why does the car allow overspeeding? Why does the car allow the driver to use a phone while driving? In the end it’s the responsibility of the driver. (I’m not saying I agree with this view, but this most probably the one behind Testla choice, as well as… cost, obviously).

The speeding one is an interesting analogy and a good question - why not force cars to cap their top speed at the highest speed possible on the freeway? I imagine the answer is that capping speed like that wasn't possible for the initial cars, and so people just got used to being able to speed and don't want it to go away now.
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