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Re: Waveterm

#11

Post by bitwize »

IshKebab wrote: post #9
sph wrote: post #7

An Electron terminal with a EULA backed by two venture capitals. What's the world coming to? I'd rather keep something as crucial as a terminal emulator open-source, and with a latency within the hundreds of milliseconds. For the fancy remoting capabilities there's Emacs.

I use VSCode's integrated terminal all the time and its performance and latency is indistinguishable from Gnome Terminal. This appears to be open source. But I don't know how you could make a viable business out of this. I mean it looks nice, but nice enough to pay for? I doubt it. And it's free... What's their business plan?

> What's their business plan?

Mumble wango cloud mumble collaboration features...

But basically, to burn through millions in VC money I think.

Re: Waveterm

#12

Post by zokier »

IshKebab wrote: post #9
sph wrote: post #7

An Electron terminal with a EULA backed by two venture capitals. What's the world coming to? I'd rather keep something as crucial as a terminal emulator open-source, and with a latency within the hundreds of milliseconds. For the fancy remoting capabilities there's Emacs.

I use VSCode's integrated terminal all the time and its performance and latency is indistinguishable from Gnome Terminal. This appears to be open source. But I don't know how you could make a viable business out of this. I mean it looks nice, but nice enough to pay for? I doubt it. And it's free... What's their business plan?

It's buried in the FAQ:

> In the future we may launch cloud features to support terminal sharing, shared workspaces, shared playbooks, and terminal backup/sync.

Presumably these cloud features will come with a subscription.

But yeah, the VC backing combined with no solid business model makes me wary. It seems unlikely that the community will be super excited to start building integrations and extensions here to benefit some SV bros.

Re: Waveterm

#13

Post by akdor1154 »

mariansam wrote: post #6

"Edit [...] with [...] VSCode. Ditch vim". Man, ditch VSCode, I want my vim

And with this, you can have your vim while still loading a gig and a half of your ram down with electron!

Re: Waveterm

#14

Post by k4runa »

Something about this design make it seem more like a chat interface to the terminal, and after using ChatGPT the idea of chatting to a raw computer terminal instead of one way commands seems so obvious... the future interface for everything looks more and more like it's just going to be chat based, or like a Jupyter notebook, and that seems amazing to me... because it's getting us ready for voice-based computing like Star Trek.

I wish one day I can just turn on my computer and it does nothing but chat, no distracting apps or web browsers, just a minimalist chat interface.

Re: Waveterm

#15

Post by eternityforest »

It looks really nice!

Ubuntu has made me slightly spoiled and less willing to try anything that's not packaged in the core repos, but maybe I'll make an exception.

VS Code's integrated terminal is pretty great though.

Re: Waveterm

#16

Post by rasse »

Neat, you can setup SSH connections as native terminal sessions.

When you type in your server info and click connect, this happens:

  prompt> connecting to user@host...
  prompt> error connecting to remote: mshell client not found
  prompt> trying auto-install
  prompt> installing mshell v0.3.0 to user@host...
Install something on a server without even asking? Also, what is "mshell client" or "mshell v0.3.0"?

Re: Waveterm

#17

Post by junon »

rasse wrote: post #16

Neat, you can setup SSH connections as native terminal sessions. When you type in your server info and click connect, this happens: prompt> connecting to user@host... prompt> error connecting to remote: mshell client not found prompt> trying auto-install prompt> installing mshell v0.3.0 to user@host... Install something on a server without even asking? Also, what is "mshell client" or "mshell v0.3.0"?

Not to shill, but WezTerm can also do this and isn't built on web stacks, if anyone is looking for something similar.

Re: Waveterm

#18

Post by [deleted] »

k4runa wrote: post #14

Something about this design make it seem more like a chat interface to the terminal, and after using ChatGPT the idea of chatting to a raw computer terminal instead of one way commands seems so obvious... the future interface for everything looks more and more like it's just going to be chat based, or like a Jupyter notebook, and that seems amazing to me... because it's getting us ready for voice-based computing like…

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Re: Waveterm

#19

Post by ckolkey »

IshKebab wrote: post #8

This looks nice! Editing in a proper editor is for sure nicer than Vim - does that work even over SSH without having to install anything? Proper history search also sounds nice. I think I will probably stick to VSCode's integrated terminal tbh because it's well integrated. But if I was doing system admin rather than programming this looks awesome. Don't listen to the predictable HN nonsense. Electron is plenty fast e…

Meh, I'll stick with vim. Thanks for the advice though.

Re: Waveterm

#20

Post by hahn-kev »

zokier wrote: post #12
IshKebab wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use VSCode's integrated terminal all the time and its performance and latency is indistinguishable from Gnome Terminal. This appears to be open source. But I don't know how you could make a viable business out of this. I mean it looks nice, but nice enough to pay for? I doubt it. And it's free... What's their business plan?

It's buried in the FAQ: > In the future we may launch cloud features to support terminal sharing, shared workspaces, shared playbooks, and terminal backup/sync. Presumably these cloud features will come with a subscription. But yeah, the VC backing combined with no solid business model makes me wary. It seems unlikely that the community will be super excited to start building integrations and extensions here to benef…

"Shared playbooks" so like scripts? Isn't that just scripts?
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