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"If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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Post by buserror »

eps wrote: post #26
buserror wrote: post #3

It is just not even just deleting shows, they do whatever they like. For example, if you buy a "HD" show on youtube, you are actually getting 480p, because something something DRM will prevents you from playing that HD version you bought on anything but a locked up air gapped computer in Youtube's VP's own office. This is a scandal that has been going on for years -- they still sell you HD versions of the movies and…

Please, quit whinning. Microsoft's been working on it for ages and they are almost there. That's exactly the point of PMP in Windows (Protected media path) and (almost) mandatory TPM in Windows 11. Not long now... and then you'll rent. May be even pay for the accrued mouse mileage, who knows.

What sort of reply is this? Does it address the fact they sell a product and you aren't getting what you paid for?

Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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Post by withinboredom »

LoganDark wrote: post #25
withinboredom wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a little different from publisher to publisher. Basically a main-stream OS, plus hardware attestation of any displays, plus an official browser version with the right codecs will get you there with no issues. If you are missing any of those pieces, you get downgraded on quality for sure.

A browser won't even work at all, as you need dedicated software (i.e. native app, TPM/TEE support) in order to play 4K media at full resolution, at least in Netflix's case.

There isn’t a native app for Mac’s, and I’m pretty sure you can watch 4K there.

Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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Post by huhtenberg »

buserror wrote: post #31
eps wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please, quit whinning. Microsoft's been working on it for ages and they are almost there. That's exactly the point of PMP in Windows (Protected media path) and (almost) mandatory TPM in Windows 11. Not long now... and then you'll rent. May be even pay for the accrued mouse mileage, who knows.

What sort of reply is this? Does it address the fact they sell a product and you aren't getting what you paid for?

Sarcasm. That was a sarcasm.

Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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Post by 15457345234 »

cameldrv wrote: post #14

Both the Photoshop/Pantone and the recent movie cases revolve around the issue where the seller only purchased a limited time license, but then sold a perpetual license to the content. To me this is simple fraud.

> To me this is simple fraud.

There's a lot of it about

Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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Post by eek2121 »

KeplerBoy wrote: post #4
buserror wrote: post #3

It is just not even just deleting shows, they do whatever they like. For example, if you buy a "HD" show on youtube, you are actually getting 480p, because something something DRM will prevents you from playing that HD version you bought on anything but a locked up air gapped computer in Youtube's VP's own office. This is a scandal that has been going on for years -- they still sell you HD versions of the movies and…

What do you actually need to playback the HD version in a browser? A recent-ish version of Chrome on Windows and an HDCP connection? It's annoying sure, but not an outlandish requirement.

You don’t consider vendor lock-in to be outlandish? Particularly when it is trivial to support much more? (literally just changing a setting)

Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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Post by danaris »

huhtenberg wrote: post #34
buserror wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What sort of reply is this? Does it address the fact they sell a product and you aren't getting what you paid for?

Sarcasm. That was a sarcasm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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Post by saulpw »

eesmith wrote: post #29
saulpw wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyright infringement is about publishing, not consuming. If I copy a friend's legally-purchased .epub that's like borrowing their legally-purchased printed book. Same as if I take a book from a Little Library in my neighborhood, or borrow a paper book from the city library. Why is the transfer of digital content more restricted? A print publisher can't prevent a library from lending their book as many times as they…

Quoting Wikipedia: "Copyright infringement (at times referred to as piracy) is the use of works protected by copyright without permission for a usage where such permission is required, thereby infringing certain exclusive rights granted to the copyright holder, such as the right to reproduce, distribute, display or perform the protected work, or to make derivative works." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_inf…

So if a friend has their one copy of a legally-purchased epub on a USB drive, they can give that USB drive to me legally, right? and I can read the book and pass the drive onto someone else?
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