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Personally nearly every nice thing in my life either is a human or was made by one
It's a bit redundant to mention "is a human" separately, since humans are made by... wait a minute
Where is the hacker spirit here? The number of Apple apologists that have crawled out to say "see? I told you so!!" is saddening. It is a bit dicey when you're charging for it, but since Mini was entirely client-side it would be feasible for a free version to exist. Apple claims iMessage is E2EE, do we have proof they aren't siphoning the messages from the client once it's been decrypted? The level of trust we have t…
This assumes that Apple can periodically extract money from users after they bought the product.
To the surprise of absolutely no-one. Seriously, what did they think was going to happen?
It lasted 3 days? :)
Where is the hacker spirit here? The number of Apple apologists that have crawled out to say "see? I told you so!!" is saddening. It is a bit dicey when you're charging for it, but since Mini was entirely client-side it would be feasible for a free version to exist. Apple claims iMessage is E2EE, do we have proof they aren't siphoning the messages from the client once it's been decrypted? The level of trust we have t…
> Where is the hacker spirit here? The hacker spirit is the fun of reverse engineering. The hacker spirit is about personal use. It's not expecting to be able to turn it into a business , or a popular app, that wouldn't quickly be shut down. That's just common sense. > Myself for example owns a Macbook, but an Android phone. Am I not allowed to use iMessage? I paid the toll. Of course you can. It's sitting there on y…
When I noticed that there is 2 dollar subscription required to use this app, then all my blame from Apple went to these developers.
You can't really expect to do business with other company's service's without asking permission or cooperating. Especially, if the required interfaces are not exactly public.
Maybe this App had hope as free version, but not as business. What they were thinking.
Where is the hacker spirit here? The number of Apple apologists that have crawled out to say "see? I told you so!!" is saddening. It is a bit dicey when you're charging for it, but since Mini was entirely client-side it would be feasible for a free version to exist. Apple claims iMessage is E2EE, do we have proof they aren't siphoning the messages from the client once it's been decrypted? The level of trust we have t…
> Where is the hacker spirit here? I'm torn on this. Is it following the hacker spirit to get more people plugged into Apple's closed ecosystem? Maybe? Maybe not? Reverse engineering a proprietary protocol is certainly hacker-y. But building a business around that -- essentially charging people to put more load onto someone else's infrastructure, who have to bear the costs (even a rich behemoth like Apple) -- I'm not…
Where is the hacker spirit here? The number of Apple apologists that have crawled out to say "see? I told you so!!" is saddening. It is a bit dicey when you're charging for it, but since Mini was entirely client-side it would be feasible for a free version to exist. Apple claims iMessage is E2EE, do we have proof they aren't siphoning the messages from the client once it's been decrypted? The level of trust we have t…
I tried beeper before (not Mini though, so could be wrong about Mini) but it seemed to be running a VM somewhere and passing messages to the MacOS Messages.app via some kind of scripting interface.
So beeper itself (the full version) was not “speaking” iMessage protocol at all.
Where is the hacker spirit here? The number of Apple apologists that have crawled out to say "see? I told you so!!" is saddening. It is a bit dicey when you're charging for it, but since Mini was entirely client-side it would be feasible for a free version to exist. Apple claims iMessage is E2EE, do we have proof they aren't siphoning the messages from the client once it's been decrypted? The level of trust we have t…
There was none to begin with. It was an attempt to build a business on top of a virtual macOS.
Edit: sorry, confused them with a different service. This one used previously published research on reverse engineering iMessage to build the business.
Where is the hacker spirit here? The number of Apple apologists that have crawled out to say "see? I told you so!!" is saddening. It is a bit dicey when you're charging for it, but since Mini was entirely client-side it would be feasible for a free version to exist. Apple claims iMessage is E2EE, do we have proof they aren't siphoning the messages from the client once it's been decrypted? The level of trust we have t…
> Obviously Mini was using the encryption properly else it wouldn't have worked to begin with. I tried beeper before (not Mini though, so could be wrong about Mini) but it seemed to be running a VM somewhere and passing messages to the MacOS Messages.app via some kind of scripting interface. So beeper itself (the full version) was not “speaking” iMessage protocol at all.