A bit sad but that's Apple we're talking here, we all know how despicable they are.
Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
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#732Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s also at severe risk of ruining the fun for numerous other hacker-spirit communities like hackintosh or opencore. Apple can come down on this in ways that potentially make it much more difficult for hackintosh to operate, or for people to update their legitimate apple systems after the end of official support. Which was pointed out in those threads too. See also geohot taking some other PS3 exploits that were alr…
The only people ruining anything for anyone in your examples are Apple and Sony.
Sure, but when fighting asymmetric warfare self control is paramount is it not?
Would you not be mad at the guy bragging that he’s a member of the Resistance? They are not the Oppressor with the capital O, but they are at least an asshole.
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#733Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We've really done one over on ourselves by adopting the mental model that only a vertically integrated corp can deliver privacy and security to users. Who is saying that? Certainly nobody anywhere in this HN thread. It is, however, fair to say that the only guarantor of privacy and security is a network of trust. There are plenty of examples where trust is partially decentralised, the most notable being the system…
> Who is saying that? There is a quote in the top level comment of this thread that says that. > It’s untenable that there’s unsanctioned client software for a messaging platform for which privacy and security are a primary feature.
That is not even remotely similar to the claim you made. Nowhere in that sentence is the claim that privacy and security cannot exist without a vertically integrated corporation.
All they're saying is that the existence of third party software compromises Apple's ability to make blanket statements about the security and privacy of this one specific platform. An unofficial third party client breaks an established network of trust — which is an objective fact. If you doubt this, then you really should use this Chromium fork I just developed. Use it to log into your internet banking. Don't be scared. There's nothing to worry about. See, there's a lock symbol in the address bar and everything.
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#735Earlier quoted context omitted.
The alternative phones outside the duopoly exist. Sent from my Librem 5.
Have Purism solved the problem where it will randomly burn through an entire battery charge in an hour? That basically makes it a non-option for the overwhelming majority of people, and it was still an issue 6 months ago. I really want to like the Librem but it's hard to justify the price tag when you're going to have to carry another phone around with you anyway.
I use a Librem 5 as my daily driver without carrying a second phone around.
The battery thing is not an issue for me in practice. I carry a spare battery (they're swappable), but I never actually need it because there's USB-C chargers everywhere I go, and I made it a habit to plug it in whenever I can.
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#736Where is the hacker spirit here? The number of Apple apologists that have crawled out to say "see? I told you so!!" is saddening. It is a bit dicey when you're charging for it, but since Mini was entirely client-side it would be feasible for a free version to exist. Apple claims iMessage is E2EE, do we have proof they aren't siphoning the messages from the client once it's been decrypted? The level of trust we have t…
HN's obsession with Apple feels like some twisted mix of Stockholm syndrome, american nationalism and sunk cost falacy. Truly bizare to the point I wouldn't be surprised if we find out Apple is actively astroturfing this and many other topics. No other tech focused forum does this.
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#737Using the same device serial number and not having Apple onboard was bound to end up like this.
Epic Games tried the same thing with Fortnite to force Apple's hand, it worked in the court but Apple only bends to laws of the land.
I don't see the big deal over iMessage - we use WhatsApp for chats in our family and it is cross platform.
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Are you twelve?
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#739Where is the hacker spirit here? The number of Apple apologists that have crawled out to say "see? I told you so!!" is saddening. It is a bit dicey when you're charging for it, but since Mini was entirely client-side it would be feasible for a free version to exist. Apple claims iMessage is E2EE, do we have proof they aren't siphoning the messages from the client once it's been decrypted? The level of trust we have t…
> Where is the hacker spirit here? The hacker spirit is the fun of reverse engineering. The hacker spirit is about personal use. It's not expecting to be able to turn it into a business , or a popular app, that wouldn't quickly be shut down. That's just common sense. > Myself for example owns a Macbook, but an Android phone. Am I not allowed to use iMessage? I paid the toll. Of course you can. It's sitting there on y…
Use WhatsApp - it works on both platforms.
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#740Beeper Cloud has also been cut off, even though they are running virtual MacOS machines for every Beeper Cloud user... not sure how they managed that
I think I saw somewhere (somewhere in the Beeper updates channel) that Beeper Cloud switched to using their new method a little while back before releasing Beeper Mini, which would explain the cut off.