It lasted 3 days? :)
Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
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Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#62The EU should, like they did years ago with PC operating systems, mandate a default browser selection screen. And a default messenger selection screen. And a default app store selection screen. Not that we'd get it in the US but it would help reduce Apple/Google market capture efforts.
'Nobody' in the EU uses iMessage, even on iPhones. Everyone here already uses Whatsapp. This demonstrates a lack of a monopoly and how competition can flourish.
Honestly - and EU-regulation that Apple faces over iMessage would just be collateral damage from EU targeting Whatsapp.
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#63> Reached for comment, Beeper CEO Eric Migicovsky did not deny that Apple has successfully blocked Beeper Mini. “If it’s Apple, then I think the biggest question is... if Apple truly cares about the privacy and security of their own iPhone users, why would they stop a service that enables their own users to now send encrypted messages to Android users, rather than using unsecure SMS? With their announcement of RCS su…
lol that is such a reach from Eric
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#64Crazy that the CEO even tried to create an entire company based on something that they absolutely cannot control. Was this an acquisition play?
Beeper is doing a lot more than just an iMessage proxy.
Technically it's not a proxy. As every device (apparently) connects directly to Apple's servers.
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#65As usual, Gruber was right on the money. Via Threads yesterday:
"My prediction is that Apple will make changes—fixing bugs and/or closing loopholes—that break Beeper Mini. It’s untenable that there’s unsanctioned client software for a messaging platform for which privacy and security are a primary feature.
It’s a very nice app, remarkably clever, and for now works like a charm, but if Apple wanted an iMessage client for Android they’d release an iMessage client for Android. Seems irresponsible for Beeper to charge a subscription for an unsupported service."
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#66This was why I never shared my iMessage for Windows: https://neosmart.net/blog/imessage-for-windows/
They’d block an account out of spite without a second thought.
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#67The EU should, like they did years ago with PC operating systems, mandate a default browser selection screen. And a default messenger selection screen. And a default app store selection screen. Not that we'd get it in the US but it would help reduce Apple/Google market capture efforts.
>And a default messenger selection screen. What for? Everybody in the EU already uses whatsapp. That shows how unnecessary these selection screens are.
Incorrect meme, almost no one is on whatsapp in Hungary for example. We use Messenger, Viber mainly and other social media apps that have a chat feature.
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#68The EU will probably look closely into that.
Why? iMessage so far isn't a part of the EU's plan. There's no requirement for it to be open.
It was for a while, but they reversed course:
https://arstechnica.com/apple/2023/12/imessage-will-reported...
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#69An open source client for iMessage is going to be used for fraud and spam. Before this, a device being blocked by Apple because it was used for fraud or spam would increase the cost of business for fraudsters and spammers. But now it's a matter of picking a new phone number. Of course Apple would try hard to stop this.
Is spam a good reason for Apple to keep their iMessage garden exclusive? SMS is also widely used for spam.
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#70The EU should, like they did years ago with PC operating systems, mandate a default browser selection screen. And a default messenger selection screen. And a default app store selection screen. Not that we'd get it in the US but it would help reduce Apple/Google market capture efforts.
>And a default messenger selection screen. What for? Everybody in the EU already uses whatsapp. That shows how unnecessary these selection screens are.
That's assuming Europe is way more homogeneus that it is. I have never heard of anyone using whatsapp in Sweden