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The pro-Israel information war

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Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by pesfandiar »

ForkMeOnTinder wrote: post #8
metadat wrote: post #6

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https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics

Without having to take any sides, just the surprising importance of culture wars on social media could be interesting. The societal effects of social media are regularly discussed here.

This particular issue has become so emotional that careers and relationships were ruined just by taking the wrong side. Because of that, I imagine most HN folks rationally steer clear of any public discussion.

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Post by pesfandiar »

master_crab wrote: post #13
jdross wrote: post #7

Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms. https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1721561226151612602 If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views https://twitter.com/committeeonccp/status/173279243496103143... It also seems like these platforms create (rather than support) anti-Israeli views: https://twitter.…

Anti-semitism in and of itself is unequivocally wrong. But conflating anti-Israeli views with anti-Semitic views does a disservice to Jews and Palestinians alike.

Couldn't agree more. It's a common misunderstanding, perhaps because there has always been a powerful campaign to equate any criticism of Israel to antisemitism.

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Post by dang »

All: if you're going to comment, please take a moment to be sure that you're up on the site guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) and that the comment you're about to post will be strictly within them. Note, for example:

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

As this is probably the most divisive topic that exists right now, the comments should be as thoughtful and substantive as commenters can make them. At a minimum, that means no flamebait, no name-calling, and no snark. Thank you.

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by devmor »

jjgreen wrote: post #17
master_crab wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anti-semitism in and of itself is unequivocally wrong. But conflating anti-Israeli views with anti-Semitic views does a disservice to Jews and Palestinians alike.

Funny how so many otherwise clever people get confused about this.

No one is immune to all propaganda, even the most clever people.

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Post by sertbdfgbnfgsd »

jdross wrote: post #7

Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms. https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1721561226151612602 If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views https://twitter.com/committeeonccp/status/173279243496103143... It also seems like these platforms create (rather than support) anti-Israeli views: https://twitter.…

> Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms.

> If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views.

That platforms prioritize one over the other is just one possible explanation. An alternative explanation is that more people already have those views. And it's dishonest to present one explanation and omit the other.

Nothing inflames people like injustice.

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Post by kar1181 »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #11

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One of things I struggle with is on certain issues like Ukraine and Israel libertarian folks I normally (largely) agree with seem to hold inexplicable views which seem to border on religious rather than practical. It makes me then wonder about everything else how can the two topics seemingly have different grades of reason versus so much of everything else.

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Post by rushingcreek »

master_crab wrote: post #13
jdross wrote: post #7

Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms. https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1721561226151612602 If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views https://twitter.com/committeeonccp/status/173279243496103143... It also seems like these platforms create (rather than support) anti-Israeli views: https://twitter.…

Anti-semitism in and of itself is unequivocally wrong. But conflating anti-Israeli views with anti-Semitic views does a disservice to Jews and Palestinians alike.

It’s obviously true that criticism of Israel isn’t inherently antisemitic.

But that’s also a convenient excuse used by people who are actually antisemitic.

Both of these things can be true at once.

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by joekrill »

jdross wrote: post #7

Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms. https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1721561226151612602 If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views https://twitter.com/committeeonccp/status/173279243496103143... It also seems like these platforms create (rather than support) anti-Israeli views: https://twitter.…

I'm skeptical that hashtags are really a good way to measure these things. They seem rather arbitrary in some cases (particularly that second link). It seems like it would be pretty easy to selectively choose specific hashtags to give any impression you want.
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