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Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by wkjagt »

cassepipe wrote: post #371
pachico wrote: post #289

I never broke a phone, not even scratched the screen but I feel force to buy a new one every 3 years because they become obsolete (I guess apps require more and more memory to the point I cannot have two open at the same time, which kills my ability to pay online). I bought a Framework laptop for the same reason and I successfully managed to upgrade it, not repair it! Is there a phone that allows me to upgrade over t…

I am only buying second hand galaxy s7 (2106) and they work fine. If needed battery replacement is rather easy to do if you follow a tutorial. I use it watch youtube videos, browse the web (probably not the fastest but fast enough), use Google Maps, take pictures, listen to music. Basic phone usage you know.

I’m using my original iPhone SE (2016). I replaced the battery a couple of weeks ago, and I’m often at 80% by the end of the day. For regular phone use, I find this phone is perfect. So small you don’t feel it in your pocket, and still does the basic things really well.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by mcv »

Moldoteck wrote: post #337
mcv wrote: post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Always sad for me to know how much popular are wireless chargers, wasting 47% more energy aprox for charging the same as a wired charger. That's also the main reason I'm not interested in wireless charging. A wire works fine, and it seems pretty obvious to me that wireless can never be as efficient. But I never had exact support for this belief, so thank you for that. > Totally agree with that, if camera is fundame…

I like having wireless as a temporary alternative if the usb-c port breaks

That is an excellent point. Ports are always vulnerable.

On the other hand, it seems that wireless charging is also the reason why many modern phones have these stupidly fragile glass backs. So your whole phone gets more vulnerable.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by DamonHD »

projektfu wrote: post #395
DamonHD wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using mobile phones since at least the 90s and have never broken one. (Motorola Sapphire was my first, 1G, and I still have it somewhere. Powering it up would probably break several laws at this point. The SIM was an entire credit-card size also...)

StarTAC? MicroTAC? Sapphire seems to refer to Motorola dashboard radios.

One of these!

https://hackaday.com/2017/01/16/shmoocon-2017-dig-out-your-o...

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by lucb1e »

ctenb wrote: post #392
ctenb wrote: post #390

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I have to be honest, and the first one I bought was outright broken. For the second one I paid more attention to reviews and it was also slightly more expensive. Let me check if I can find the brand

Found it: https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/mmobiel-usb-c-naar-3-5-mm-jack-a...

Thanks! Note you can also buy this without bolcom tax, since this seller has their own website: https://www.mmobiel.com/nl/mmobiel-usb-c-naar-3.5mm-trrs-hoo... There's also one with a DAC with better specs https://www.mmobiel.com/nl/mmobiel-usb-c-naar-3.5mm-trrs-hoo... (whether that actually sounds better iff the original one is already fine, I doubt)

Another downside btw is that you can't charge your phone anymore at the same time. I bought a wireless charger to remedy that but the device gets super hot, thermal protection kicks in, and it starts to throttle the charging. Doesn't seem great for battery longevity. There's devices that combine power and headphone jack into USB-C, but there I couldn't find a single one where the reviews didn't say it broke after two weeks or unusable sound quality or so. I simply miss a separate headphone jack... but this will have to do. Thanks for looking up which one you've got :)

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by augustk »

Moldoteck wrote: post #334

I really like the concept, but I hate it's size. I just can't buy something that big for daily use. Why can't they make a smaller version, idk, like pixel 3/5 sizes, isn't this more sustainable/eco friendly?

Many people want a "smaller" phone but the only options seem to be iPhone SE and iPhone Mini. Why aren't there more small models? Isn't the market economy supposed to solve this? For me the iPhone SE has the perfect size; not too big to fit in my front pocket.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by mcv »

mrweasel wrote: post #394
llamaInSouth wrote: post #341

they probably should have went with 9.5 in case something better comes along

That's actually a pretty big issue for surveys where I live. I live in a part of Denmark that is notorious for never using the full scale in surveys, to the point where it screws with data analysis. Basically we'll never use 5 in a 1 - 5 score, or 10 in a 1 - 10, because what if something better came along? I've been to training seminars and done surveys about workplace issues where we've been specifically instructed…

I often answer in the 2-4 range. Usually because of the way the question is phrased. If they want different answers, they should ask their questions differently.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by Moldoteck »

mcv wrote: post #402
Moldoteck wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like having wireless as a temporary alternative if the usb-c port breaks

That is an excellent point. Ports are always vulnerable. On the other hand, it seems that wireless charging is also the reason why many modern phones have these stupidly fragile glass backs. So your whole phone gets more vulnerable.

I don't buy it. Pixel 5 did have a kinda metallic-plastiky back (sort of plastic around wireless c, but it was impossible to spot the area with naked eye), it looked nice. You also can see the zenfone 10, it's some sort of plastic, but super nice to the touch. Having glass back is not mandatory for a wireless charging phone, I think companies do this to make more profit on repairs longterm

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by Moldoteck »

augustk wrote: post #405
Moldoteck wrote: post #334

I really like the concept, but I hate it's size. I just can't buy something that big for daily use. Why can't they make a smaller version, idk, like pixel 3/5 sizes, isn't this more sustainable/eco friendly?

Many people want a "smaller" phone but the only options seem to be iPhone SE and iPhone Mini. Why aren't there more small models? Isn't the market economy supposed to solve this? For me the iPhone SE has the perfect size; not too big to fit in my front pocket.

for me even pixel 5 was ok (mini is even better but let's say apple is another story). Now we have only zenfone 10, that is a bit taller so again not that nice and s23 that is +- the size of p5 but still something felt off. Iphone 13 mini was super nice to hold, super light. I would have got one if not lightning. All my devices use usb-c, it would be a downgrade to use lightning

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by hegzploit »

sunshine_reggae wrote: post #389

No headphone jack => No Fairphone. I'm never going to put my brain between 2 radiation emitters. And that's just 1 reason why I'll always use cable.

Mind sharing any source about the harmful effects of electromagnetic radiations coming from ear buds? I always believed these were negligible compared to the radiation we are exposed to everyday.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by geraldhh »

Gigachad wrote: post #237
iandanforth wrote: post #11

I'd buy one if it had a headphone jack!

Seems like the problem with targeting a niche market is that the buyers all have some very specific hard requirements. It has to have a headphone jack, it has to have wireless charging, it has to have cameras as good as the iphone, it has to have an AV1 video decoder, etc. Same problem with the Framework laptop. Everyone has a different set of obscure hard requirements.

> It has to have a headphone jack, it has to have wireless charging, it has to have cameras as good as the iphone, it has to have an AV1 video decoder

very reasonable requirements, imho

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