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Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by tuhriel »

sspiff wrote: post #350
frabcus wrote: post #290

Really loving my Fairphone 5 - basically smartphones are enough of a commodity now everything feels really high quality and fast physically. The sky blue colour is really nice. AND also it avoids conflict metals, is repairable. Much much better than my last Fairphone (which was the Fairphone 2). I switched from an iPhone this time. I'm also enjoying that Android is a bit more programmable without rooting it - running…

Have you tried the camera? How did you find it? I honestly don't care much about processor speed, if it can run a browser, messaging and banking apps I'm fine. But I need to be able to take family pictures which are good enough quality for occasional full page prints. I've always been disappointed with these kind of niche devices in the past, where the cameras were barely of the level of 2 year old sub-$200 phones, e…

I'm running the FP5 at the moment and compared to my OnePlus 7T the camera quality is not on par, especially the whitebalance has some issues

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Post by ctenb »

ctenb wrote: post #390
lucb1e wrote: post #383

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Which one? The only ones I've been able to find have either terrible reviews, or I ordered it and it turned out to be terrible. "You sound like you're talking to us from under water or behind glass", was my colleagues' description. Couldn't get a work phone with headphone jack... privately I dread the day where I need a new phone and need to probably forfeit both headphone and microsd to get something that's not seve…

I have to be honest, and the first one I bought was outright broken. For the second one I paid more attention to reviews and it was also slightly more expensive. Let me check if I can find the brand

Found it: https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/mmobiel-usb-c-naar-3-5-mm-jack-a...

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by q0uaur »

mhitza wrote: post #81
q0uaur wrote: post #61

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not the other guy, but... any advice how to find a decent usb-c to audio jack dongle? i've ordered a cheap one and it's absolutely unusable, horrible sound quality and constant noticeable static. not feeling like gambling on another one.

Safe to assume you're in the US? In EU, or another country with reasonable return policy, I'd buy such a dongle in an electronics shops, try it on the spot and refund if it's non comformant.

europe, but i ordered it online and shipping it back just isnt worth the effort. i guess it's a decent idea, but physical stores around here just add such a massive markup, sometimes triple the price....

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by mrweasel »

llamaInSouth wrote: post #341

they probably should have went with 9.5 in case something better comes along

That's actually a pretty big issue for surveys where I live. I live in a part of Denmark that is notorious for never using the full scale in surveys, to the point where it screws with data analysis.

Basically we'll never use 5 in a 1 - 5 score, or 10 in a 1 - 10, because what if something better came along?

I've been to training seminars and done surveys about workplace issues where we've been specifically instructed to use the full scale, because clustering on e.g. 2 - 4 will result in NOTHING, it gets removed by HR/software/analysis as average and not worth dealing with, resulting in no change.

I'd still argue that it issue is in how people use the data, but it remains a problem.

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Post by projektfu »

DamonHD wrote: post #363
llamaInSouth wrote: post #314

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You are one of the rare people that never broke a phone, probably.... or you just started using a cellphone... or you dont really use it or armored case, or something similar

I have been using mobile phones since at least the 90s and have never broken one. (Motorola Sapphire was my first, 1G, and I still have it somewhere. Powering it up would probably break several laws at this point. The SIM was an entire credit-card size also...)

StarTAC? MicroTAC? Sapphire seems to refer to Motorola dashboard radios.

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Post by [deleted] »

scheeseman486 wrote: post #258
toastercat wrote: post #131

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1. Many USB-C jack adapters are poor quality. 2. USB-C adapters are one extra thing to carry around and easy to lose or forget, unless you just never unplug it, which is cumbersome 3. Many people who were born before the year 2005 (me included) have wired headphones that they prefer and have used for years that still work fine and have the sound quality and comfort that fit our needs. 4. Outside of the smart phone wo…

1. buy a good adapter 2. connect it to the end of your headphones and leave it there 3. do the above 4. buy a good adapter 5. don't use bluetooth and buy an adapter e: I was a little flippant. Point being: Time has marched on, TVs don't have RCA jacks either. You are an enthusiast and that's fine, I am too, but everyone else has moved on to bluetooth and wifi-enabled speakers and TVs. I'm happy to simply have the opt…

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Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by projektfu »

sunshine_reggae wrote: post #389

No headphone jack => No Fairphone. I'm never going to put my brain between 2 radiation emitters. And that's just 1 reason why I'll always use cable.

USB-C to 3.5mm dongles are pretty inexpensive and unobtrusive. I use one to keep my old tried-and-true noise-cancelling headphones working.

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Post by mcv »

singleshot_ wrote: post #147
system2 wrote: post #103

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This is why people buy iPhone. Unless you drop it from a speeding car, it won't cause any issues for 4-5 years at least.

I have an iPhone 11 Pro. The back is made out of glass which is easily breakable. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why, because behind the glass is an opaque piece of aluminum. The glass broke on the third day I had the phone when I tossed it from knee height on to a folded up sweatshirt that was sitting on a rug on a tile floor. Oh, actually, I guess I do know why an opaque part of a thousand dollar phone is m…

I don't get this either. My OnePlus 7 also has a glass back. These thin, fragile phones all require a case (making it thicker and hiding the sleek looks) to protect them, and my glass back still broke despite the case. What's the point?

I'd rather have a sturdy phone that doesn't require a separate case. In fact, the replaceable body of my old Fairphone 2 is a much better idea.

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Post by smolder »

scheeseman486 wrote: post #361
einr wrote: post #345

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Roughly speaking every laptop on the face of the earth, including every Apple MacBook, has a headphone jack. Speaking of Macs, many of them have very high-quality DACs and amps that can drive quality headphones. Apple has gone out of their way to make the headphone outputs very good.[1] Why then would you occupy one of your maybe two USB ports with an inferior dongle? "Not enough people complained" is a terrible metr…

Space is at a premium on mobile and water ingress is a problem, there's no licensing fees to use such a jack and the part itself is absolute peanuts to buy. The real estate they gained by getting rid of the part eventually got filled by something that's almost certainly more expensive. You don't have to overthink, you just need to think. Why permanently graft a part to a highly space optimized device when it isn't ev…

I've been enjoying using the headphone jack on my new android phone with the very nice headphones I have. There's nothing to "get over" if you don't want to. Headphone jacks won't be obsolete in my lifetime, even if they mostly disappear from phones.

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Post by zelphirkalt »

xnickb wrote: post #360
zelphirkalt wrote: post #325

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I think it is also about the use cases and apps you use. For example: I have 1 phone older than 10y serving as a music player, almost never having Internet connection, almost always being in airplane mode. Another phone as my normal phone, also nearing 10y old, with a screen that is partially broken, but still accepts touch input fine everywhere, inherited from someone else, used usually only for Signal and Hackernew…

> Use a phone as a phone, not as your universal computing interface Sounds limiting. Nowadays there are plenty of phones that can handle reasonable workloads at a reasonable price. Especially if you don't care about the camera.

What is limiting is, to rely on a smart phone to do computing. A vast majority of the phones is locked down and steering people away from general computing ability. Can you do whatever you want on your phone? No. Not with the usual OS on them. Need to root it, jailbreak it, whatever. Then you have a phone with a bad input device. Yes you can improve it with something like hacker keyboard and whatever, but it is far far from being productive like a normal computer.

I am aware more and more people only use smart phones and don't own a general computer any longer, but that is a really sad development. A smart phone will usually not encourage experimentation and getting into general computing. It is a dumbed down device.

Yes, one should be able to use a phone for computing, but generally that's not available out of the box and it takes effort to make it somewhat OK to use it for computing.

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