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I've just started using ProBiora3 to try to reduce my gingivitis levels. I would love a one-application solution and will be watching this closely.
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I trust the sceince just fine, i dont trust corporate interests and how heavily and deeply coporate rot has penetrated into our institutions. I activly expect dishonesty on the part of corporate interest, and corporate interest is increasingly if not already entierly, government interest.
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I trust the sceince just fine, i dont trust corporate interests and how heavily and deeply coporate rot has penetrated into our institutions. I activly expect dishonesty on the part of corporate interest, and corporate interest is increasingly if not already entierly, government interest.
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I trust the sceince just fine, i dont trust corporate interests and how heavily and deeply coporate rot has penetrated into our institutions. I activly expect dishonesty on the part of corporate interest, and corporate interest is increasingly if not already entierly, government interest.
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I trust the sceince just fine, i dont trust corporate interests and how heavily and deeply coporate rot has penetrated into our institutions. I activly expect dishonesty on the part of corporate interest, and corporate interest is increasingly if not already entierly, government interest.
Do you have any examples of how the FDA is starting to put corporate interest ahead of public interest?
The author claims that the FDA set impossible standards for getting this approved when it was originally discovered and that those same standards prevent them from seeking FDA approval now....but further down acknowledges that probiotics like this product are actually subject to much more lenient standards.
> The FDA demanded a study of 100 subjects, all of whom had to be “age 18-30, with removable dentures, living alone and far from school zones”. Hillman wasn’t sure there even were 100 young people with dentures, but the FDA wouldn’t budge from requiring this impossible trial. Hillman gave up and switched to other projects Interesting that the FDA can request such things. Would be a good way to block disruptive produc…
It is good at "protecting" people from things that might help them. Like many others, I'm being protected from treatments that might harm me, so the cancer I've got can kill me instead.
This seems like a scam... The author claims that the FDA set impossible standards for getting this approved when it was originally discovered and that those same standards prevent them from seeking FDA approval now....but further down acknowledges that probiotics like this product are actually subject to much more lenient standards.
1. The claim that this strain outcompetes the same S mutans from occupying the same niche cannot be true unless this strain is also capable of creating and tolerating environments with low pH. By definition if it creates acid to the same degree it will also cause cavities.
2. Single applications are insufficient to cause any persistent colonization. Even multiple daily applications of oral probiotics don’t lead to colonization. Oral probiotics function primarily through bacteriocins, not through colonization (except in very rare cases). This is because the existing microbiome is incredibly difficult to outcompete. The community in your mouth has evolved for as long as you have lived, and in some ways was shaped for generations before as it’s technically inherited from your ancestors.
3. S mutans is not the only species that causes cavities. S sobrinus, S wiggsiae, B dentium, about a dozen other acidogenic species also cause cavities.
Source: I’m a cofounder at Bristle Health, the oral microbiome company.