Unkeeping, I’m tired of this.
Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?
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Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?
#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
Main board failures are hard, they'll kill just about any phone and it's pretty challenging to make the service part economically viable. For what it's worth, I don't know of any systemic problems / higher than usual error rates with the Fairphone 3 main board. You got unlucky. Consider giving them another shot sometime!
What’s the point of a repairable phone if parts are out of stock?
One of dozens of parts is out of stock and as the other comment points out itself it is also the part that makes the least sense to replace.
Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?
#253I owned a fairphone 3. It was expensive but very easy to take apart and promised years of updates. Then it broke, after about 18 months. Fine, I thought, I'm glad I got a repairable phone. I'll just fix it, it'll be easy. I determined the problem was with the main logic board and found that a) a new one would cost much more than an entirely new, and more capable phone and b) it was out of stock. I just bought a new p…
> a new one would cost much more than an entirely new, and more capable phone
That is the case in general with fairphone, if you just want a cheap phone you can buy an iPhone.
Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?
#254I owned a fairphone 3. It was expensive but very easy to take apart and promised years of updates. Then it broke, after about 18 months. Fine, I thought, I'm glad I got a repairable phone. I'll just fix it, it'll be easy. I determined the problem was with the main logic board and found that a) a new one would cost much more than an entirely new, and more capable phone and b) it was out of stock. I just bought a new p…
> a new one would cost much more than an entirely new, and more capable phone That is the case in general with fairphone, if you just want a cheap phone you can buy an iPhone.
> if you just want a cheap phone you can buy an iPhone.
Out of context, this sounds so wrong.
Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?
#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
Main board failures are hard, they'll kill just about any phone and it's pretty challenging to make the service part economically viable. For what it's worth, I don't know of any systemic problems / higher than usual error rates with the Fairphone 3 main board. You got unlucky. Consider giving them another shot sometime!
What’s the point of a repairable phone if parts are out of stock?
Having access to donor parts from cheap used models?
Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?
#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are good reasons why Pixel phones are the only ones supported by GrapheneOS. See the list of requirements here[1]. If other devices met that criteria, they would be considered for support as well. The GOS team has done very thorough work to audit the supported devices, including the hardware, firmware and software components, to make sure they reach their high standards. They've made upstream contributions to A…
I bet that if Google stops matching one of those requirements, the team will just drop that requirement instead of abandoning the whole project and all their work. Which means that these requirements are at least partly informed by the capabilities of Google pixel phones. I have to say though that the timely security update thing is really a weak point of Fairphone. Yes they have years of support but they often delay…
Well yeah, because they have no choice? Like what kind of counter argument is this?
GOS is reliant on work upstream like most products and projects are, it's why they stop supporting phones once the SoC and it's associate blob code fall out of support of the manufacturer. Fairphone doesn't do this, they keep pumping out new versions filled with unpatched vulnerabilities while pretending the software they're producing for the hardware they're supporting is up to date when it actually isn't. It's not a weak point, it borders on fraud.
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#257> Fairphone promises five Android version upgrades and at least eight years of security updates, with an aim for a total lifespan of a decade. Impressive
So I’m completely out of the loop on the whole de-googling your Android phone thing. How workable is it today and how well would it work on a phone like this?
I installed CalyxOS and I've painlessly installed (almost) all my apps via the Aurora store.
The only one that didn't work was a podcast app with in-app purchases, which isn't supported.
Everything else just works.
The whole process was easy and painless.
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#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you reeeaaally? If you really wanted a phone like this, you'd just get the tiny USB-C to Jack adapter. How much of a chance that you'd find some other detail that's not ok if it had a jack?
1. Many USB-C jack adapters are poor quality. 2. USB-C adapters are one extra thing to carry around and easy to lose or forget, unless you just never unplug it, which is cumbersome 3. Many people who were born before the year 2005 (me included) have wired headphones that they prefer and have used for years that still work fine and have the sound quality and comfort that fit our needs. 4. Outside of the smart phone wo…
1. buy a good adapter
2. connect it to the end of your headphones and leave it there
3. do the above
4. buy a good adapter
5. don't use bluetooth and buy an adapter
e: I was a little flippant. Point being: Time has marched on, TVs don't have RCA jacks either. You are an enthusiast and that's fine, I am too, but everyone else has moved on to bluetooth and wifi-enabled speakers and TVs. I'm happy to simply have the option, it's not like half-decent dongles are particularly expensive.
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#259A repairable phone is honestly less interesting to me at this point then a seamless user-environment restore experience, which I still can't get. Even with all the cloud-leeching and I presume data mining, if I crushed my phone into dust today, there's absolutely no way even if I get exactly the same model (which I can't) to get it to restore back to exactly how it was. At this point I've been considering prodding An…
Google have worsened backup and filesystem access for power users as they've locked things down; I remember using Titanium Backup on an Android 5 or 6 device to back up my apps and their data, as well as exporting my SMSes and call log to xml, then restoring it all without a hitch.
I wish we had a choice; I'd happily give up some security for an experience closer to my Linux laptop. And don't even get me started on my iPhone and filesystem access there (1).
1: 99% of iOS music players don't expose their music library as a folder in Files; one of the only ones that does is, funnily enough, a cross-platform Android-iOS-Windows app, Neutron Music Player². With Neutron, I can open a-shell³ and 'yt-dlp' a playlist from YouTube or Bandcamp to a new folder in my Neutron music folder - some obscure (esp. foreign) albums and soundtracks aren't available to buy where I am.
Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?
#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
How terrible are people treating their cables? That number is insane to me.
Travel, among other things. Wear on the phone side of the port should be considered too.
But usually, people don't travel with their wireless chargers, or if they do, their wireless charger wire will get the same bad treatment as their phone charging cable.
As for wear on the phone side, the good thing of having a Fairphone is that it is easily replaceable. But USB-C ports are also designed to be more robust than the cable. So unless there is a defect, it should last the life of the phone.