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Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by throwaway81523 »

babypuncher wrote: post #30
TrueGeek wrote: post #16

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I'm surprised you're getting downvoted. The iPhone has been IP67 since iPhone 7 (so 7 years now). I figured more people appreciated this. I assume most Androids are the same. It's nice to be able to go kayaking and not worry about having to have a waterproof case. Mine once spent 10 hours in a back cycling jersey pocket where it rained the entire time and it was perfectly fine.

I appreciate it. I like knowing my phone can survive a quick rinse in the sink when it gets dirty.

I can't wait for the day when we have to lose our reflashed phones in boating accidents on purpose.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by pwagland »

WheatMillington wrote: post #177

I don't understand why this is such a priority for people. I've never had to have a phone repaired, and unless you're buying top-of-the-line phones aren't expensive anyway. Changing my phone out every 3 years isn't exactly adding piles of e-waste.

Per person, it's not. But if you have 3 billion people changing their phones every 3 years, that's a billion phones per year.

Assuming that the average phone weighs 100g, that's 100 million tons of phones per year.

In the aggregate, it adds up a lot.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by blitz_skull »

rcarr wrote: post #43

I wonder how long it will take for tech like foldable screens to make it's way to devices like this. After some scepticism, I've recently transitioned to a foldable and it does feel like the next evolution in phones, even if the tech is currently pretty fragile.

What makes you bullish on that? I had the opposite experience recently. I used a friend’s foldable phone and it felt extremely gimmicky.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by onedognight »

tdba wrote: post #144
kayyyy wrote: post #116

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no phone manufacturer is infallible. my iPhone 4 battery went up in smoke after owning it for 1.5 years. my iPhone 6 plus developed touch disease after 2 years, the replacement developed touch disease after a week, and the second replacement began exhibiting mild symptoms after a couple months, the nand failed after another 2 years. (applecare replacements mind you.) plus I wasn't a huge fan of apple trying to sweep…

I dropped my iphone 14 in the ocean. It was in there 2 days until it washed up onshore. A fisherman picked it up and it was still on and it had service. It was in lost mode so he was able to call my emergency contact and I got it back. Aside from minor scratches on the screen it has no damage and works perfectly. That experience taught me that Apple takes reliability extremely seriously, even if they dont care about…

We found an iPhone in the ocean in Mexico. Verizon put us in touch with the owner who said it had been there for a week. It worked fine. I agree, reliability can be a proxy for repairability.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

onli wrote: post #146
yellow_lead wrote: post #139

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> It is the more reasonable choice to GrapheneOS anyway, given their recent issues with developer behavior. What were these issues?

Behavior akin to a paranoid delusion. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4To-F6W1NT0 . The developer is gone, so no need to avoid the project completely, but CalyxOS is an interesting alternative anyway.

Why spread FUD about a developer that is no longer involved?

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by [deleted] »

binkHN wrote: post #85
calamari4065 wrote: post #76

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If you use fast wired charging, which most phones do, you're causing significant wear to the battery. With daily fast charging, I've seen phones chew through their battery in under a year. Conversely, the rather slow charge rate of wireless helps extend battery life quite a lot. This is why I never use fast charging, avoid wired charging in general, and limit my battery to 85% max charge. It's been three or four year…

> If you use fast wired charging, which most phones do, you're causing significant wear to the battery. I don't know about other Android phones, but Google's Pixel line of phones will do a slow charge overnight and time the top off to be in line with your morning alarm. So, my thought is that effort is being made here to extend battery life by specifically not fast charging overnight.

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Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by tdba »

aqfamnzc wrote: post #149
tdba wrote: post #144

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I dropped my iphone 14 in the ocean. It was in there 2 days until it washed up onshore. A fisherman picked it up and it was still on and it had service. It was in lost mode so he was able to call my emergency contact and I got it back. Aside from minor scratches on the screen it has no damage and works perfectly. That experience taught me that Apple takes reliability extremely seriously, even if they dont care about…

Wow, did you drop it nearby, as in, on the beach? I always imagined that a denser object like that would stay put and even perhaps nudged outward by the ocean motion.

Literally right into the waves, it got sucked out immediately.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by solardev »

pwagland wrote: post #182
WheatMillington wrote: post #177

I don't understand why this is such a priority for people. I've never had to have a phone repaired, and unless you're buying top-of-the-line phones aren't expensive anyway. Changing my phone out every 3 years isn't exactly adding piles of e-waste.

Per person, it's not. But if you have 3 billion people changing their phones every 3 years, that's a billion phones per year. Assuming that the average phone weighs 100g, that's 100 million tons of phones per year. In the aggregate, it adds up a lot.

I wonder if the decrease in desktop computers, CRT screens, printers, scanners, fax machines, etc. lowered overall e-waste volumes at all. Even though there are so many phones, each one is a lot smaller than personal electronics used to be.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by dzhiurgis »

singleshot_ wrote: post #147
system2 wrote: post #103

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This is why people buy iPhone. Unless you drop it from a speeding car, it won't cause any issues for 4-5 years at least.

I have an iPhone 11 Pro. The back is made out of glass which is easily breakable. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why, because behind the glass is an opaque piece of aluminum. The glass broke on the third day I had the phone when I tossed it from knee height on to a folded up sweatshirt that was sitting on a rug on a tile floor. Oh, actually, I guess I do know why an opaque part of a thousand dollar phone is m…

To each their own. I bought myself and my partner iPhone 13. She kept her in case, mine always case free.

2 years later, she broke back and screen. Mine while all scratched up is still intact. Went underwater at least 5 times. Number of falls on concrete, tiles, etc.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by massysett »

WheatMillington wrote: post #177

I don't understand why this is such a priority for people. I've never had to have a phone repaired, and unless you're buying top-of-the-line phones aren't expensive anyway. Changing my phone out every 3 years isn't exactly adding piles of e-waste.

I have no idea how much e-waste results from a phone. How many materials are mined to make the metals? How much energy was needed to manufacture the chips?

At first glance yeah, a phone has much less e-waste than a laser printer. Is this true though? Yeah, the laser printer takes up more space in a landfill. But what about everything that went into making the phone, and the waste resulting from these processes? Maybe the lithium ion battery alone is considered much worse waste than anything in the printer.

I have no idea. It would be interesting to see something that attempts to tally these things.

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