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Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by aqfamnzc »

redder23 wrote: post #63
maegul wrote: post #53

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So I’m completely out of the loop on the whole de-googling your Android phone thing. How workable is it today and how well would it work on a phone like this?

VERY ironically just do NOT buy a fucking Google phone to un-google it. I really really like the Grahpene OS project but its a damn shame that is does only support Pixels and not Fairphones or phones that are at least privacy supporting from the manufacturers end. I think "hardware security" of Google phones sounds nice on paper but you never know if these is some NSA chip or some other exploit build in that the Grap…

If the NSA chip you describe exists, it's in every android phone. I don't see why it's any more likely that a google product would have a government backdoor than any other manufacturer. (More likely that it's an IP block in the processor rather than a discrete package "chip".)

That leaves backdoors created by and for Google, concern for which I suppose your comment still applies. It seems less likely to me though...

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by XorNot »

A repairable phone is honestly less interesting to me at this point then a seamless user-environment restore experience, which I still can't get.

Even with all the cloud-leeching and I presume data mining, if I crushed my phone into dust today, there's absolutely no way even if I get exactly the same model (which I can't) to get it to restore back to exactly how it was.

At this point I've been considering prodding Ansible and ADB to see if it can handle the config setup part, but given how locked down phones actually are I doubt it's viable.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by adolph »

Ruthalas wrote: post #113
adolph wrote: post #39

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> without having to glue it back together It's not like using a squirt-bottle. Just buy the seal with the repair part, example below. https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-x-display-assembly-ad...

In my opinion, getting it safely /off/ is the challenge that makes glued-on front panels a downside.

Just take your time, warm it up a bit and use a little acetone. Not a big deal. That kind of seal is intended to be opened for repair.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by [deleted] »

richwater wrote: post #140
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #136

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What’s the environmental cost of USB charging assuming wear on the cable? I seem to naturally go through one per year, I have a friend whose pets love to destroy cables so I assume they go through more. Electricity can be solar, meaning that it could be close enough to zero environmental impact - think 20 years from now when we’ve got our crap together when it comes to sustainable energy.. Edit: a point below comment…

How terrible are people treating their cables? That number is insane to me.

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Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by autoexec »

redder23 wrote: post #63
maegul wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I’m completely out of the loop on the whole de-googling your Android phone thing. How workable is it today and how well would it work on a phone like this?

VERY ironically just do NOT buy a fucking Google phone to un-google it. I really really like the Grahpene OS project but its a damn shame that is does only support Pixels and not Fairphones or phones that are at least privacy supporting from the manufacturers end. I think "hardware security" of Google phones sounds nice on paper but you never know if these is some NSA chip or some other exploit build in that the Grap…

> but you never know if these is some NSA chip or some other exploit build in that the Graphene OS

I wouldn't be surprised if there were some backdoor in the Qualcomm chip the fairphone 5 uses or the radios in other phones. Without open hardware you really can't trust anything. Not when we know we're all being constantly spied on by the state and by the corporations who design/manufacture our hardware.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by autoexec »

sowbug wrote: post #8

Motivated by this article, and already thinking about handing down my current phone to a family member as a Christmas gift, I visited the Fairphone store ( https://shop.fairphone.com/ though likely available only on Amazon in the US) and read one review ( https://www.theverge.com/23895548/fairphone-5-review-price-f... ). Here's why I'm holding off. 1. No wireless charging. Switching to this phone would require a big…

I'll add to your list of fairphone shortcomings the lack of a headphone jack. I really don't buy their excuse that including one would make the phone too large to be commercially viable.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by shepherdjerred »

singleshot_ wrote: post #147
system2 wrote: post #103

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This is why people buy iPhone. Unless you drop it from a speeding car, it won't cause any issues for 4-5 years at least.

I have an iPhone 11 Pro. The back is made out of glass which is easily breakable. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why, because behind the glass is an opaque piece of aluminum. The glass broke on the third day I had the phone when I tossed it from knee height on to a folded up sweatshirt that was sitting on a rug on a tile floor. Oh, actually, I guess I do know why an opaque part of a thousand dollar phone is m…

I also own an iPhone 11 Pro. It's in great condition and I plan to keep using it until it no longer receives major software updates.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by IMTDb »

binkHN wrote: post #4

> Fairphone promises five Android version upgrades and at least eight years of security updates, with an aim for a total lifespan of a decade. Impressive

This is comparable to Apple timeline. The iPhone 6, released sept 2014 got a security update earlier this year.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by rootusrootus »

singleshot_ wrote: post #147
system2 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why people buy iPhone. Unless you drop it from a speeding car, it won't cause any issues for 4-5 years at least.

I have an iPhone 11 Pro. The back is made out of glass which is easily breakable. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why, because behind the glass is an opaque piece of aluminum. The glass broke on the third day I had the phone when I tossed it from knee height on to a folded up sweatshirt that was sitting on a rug on a tile floor. Oh, actually, I guess I do know why an opaque part of a thousand dollar phone is m…

You tossed it onto a tile floor, and it broke. That's unfortunate, but not entirely a surprise no matter who manufactured the phone. Glass is glass.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by autoexec »

adamjc wrote: post #97
acheron wrote: post #65

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What about a floppy drive and parallel port connector?

bluetooth headphones have a noticable delay for anyone who pays attention.

bluetooth headphones/audio have a long list of problems, but I generally don't want to enable bluetooth on my phones at all. It's used extensively for tracking and can log your location at a distance of within a foot from where the beacon is placed or from over 20 miles away. That means I need a headphone jack.
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