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Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Post by rambambram »

movedx wrote: post #45
rambambram wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I follow a lot of what I call 'dev blogs' via RSS from a lot of people here on HN. My subscription list is hundreds of websites long by now (probably 350), collected over two years or so. I sometimes try to only visit blogs this way for a day, and it's refreshing. No algorithms, no ads. Usually very good and interesting content, all these people have skin in the game by having a domain name, a website and effort put…

Nice! Are you willing to share the list somewhere/somehow? Maybe in a Gist?

Definitely. I have this list at heyhomepage.com, at the bottom. Right now, it's a list in HTML, but you can browse it.

The accompanying OPML file (basically just a list of RSS feeds) doesn't work at the moment, because it's usually populated one by one when I change something. I made all my subscriptions public at once for your request by changing the database. In the future this OPML file will contain all the feeds, with my categories and all.

The HTML list contains 900+ feeds, of which more than onethird is what I call a 'dev blog'. But I also found a lot of interesting sites/feeds on HN that I put in other categories, like 'art n design', 'bizz n marketing', 'philosophy n life, 'science n history', etc. You get the gist (pun intended).

The category 'photo feeds' is also interesting. It contains feeds with an image in the tag, which makes for a more lively feed when I browse it in the RSS reader of Hey Homepage (my website system for small businesses and individuals).

If you send me a message on the contactform over there, I can reply with an .sql file by mail which contains everything. Might be easier for you to transform it into something workable.

Also, very recently this kind of blogroll/webring was done by other people on HN. It contains user-uploaded blogs and feeds from HN users. You might want to search for that. My guess is there is a lot of overlap between my list and theirs.

Edit: Right now, the HTML list doesn't contain the categories I added. If you really want that, I can add it quickly within a day or so. Also, there's no personal info in the list (it was private), but if you happen to find something, please let me know. ;)

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Post by _heimdall »

blueflow wrote: post #50
_heimdall wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously can't speak for all Americans, but from where I stand free speech is an absolute right and there shouldn't be anything legally wrong with talking shit. In my opinion laws shouldn't exist unless it can be clear to a person that they would be breaking the law beforehand. In the case of speech, laws limiting speech are full of gray areas and imprecise definitions that leave too much ambiguity. A person can ver…

But the result of near-absolute free speech also includes how people were riled up in the Rittenhouse case or the hit pieces that show up in the NYT every other month. Societal discourse should be better than that. Edit: Alternatively, find ways to have people not rile up like that You are right that its impossible to determine if your speech will offend others. But you can use other criteria, like your statements be…

I don't personally see anything wrong with people getting riled up. Obviously that changes if one moves past words and assaults someone, destroys property, etc but there's nothing wrong with discourse. Again, this is just my opinion having grown up in the US and I wouldn't begin to say other cultures should agree!

Living in Germany, do you find yourself being hesitant to speak out either online or publicly? Do you have a clear enough expectation of what would a judge would rule with regards to speech? And do you ever worry about how those existing laws could be misused in the future by people with more strict opinions of what speech is off limits?

I lived in a European country with similar laws to Germany for two years. As it turned out I was really only there for two years of pandemic response unfortunately, but I didn't feel particularly comfortable speaking in public about anything related to the pandemic response or leadership. Without having a clear line on what would be deemed offensive by a court I found myself censoring my own speech to avoid running afoul of laws I didn't even know I broke.

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Post by d-z-m »

ponorin wrote: post #47

> how differently do people over in the East Asian sphere (primarily Japan) handle I don't see any other example other than the Japanese? East Asia is not like Europe where the border is blurry and services are interchangable. Even moreso in the context of the Internet. The 3 big economies: China, Korea, and Japan, all have their own search engine, their own messenger, their own payment system (even their own card ne…

I don't think the author is saying that East Asian culture is primarily Japanese. I think the author is saying they will focus on Japan in their analysis of personal websites.

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Post by syndicatedjelly »

blueflow wrote: post #41
lmm wrote: post #31

I suspect a big part of the difference is down to Japan's very strict defamation laws (much as the UK tends to be more circumspect than the US, but even more so). Even e.g. product review sites are difficult to use because they're desperate to avoid saying anything negative.

I ask the question the other way around: Why is it socially acceptable and even legal in the US to talk shit about other people in public, without them present to defend themselves.

It’s legal because of the first Amendment of the US Constitution, which is held in higher regard than any religious text even.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Post by blueflow »

_heimdall wrote: post #52
blueflow wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the result of near-absolute free speech also includes how people were riled up in the Rittenhouse case or the hit pieces that show up in the NYT every other month. Societal discourse should be better than that. Edit: Alternatively, find ways to have people not rile up like that You are right that its impossible to determine if your speech will offend others. But you can use other criteria, like your statements be…

I don't personally see anything wrong with people getting riled up. Obviously that changes if one moves past words and assaults someone, destroys property, etc but there's nothing wrong with discourse. Again, this is just my opinion having grown up in the US and I wouldn't begin to say other cultures should agree! Living in Germany, do you find yourself being hesitant to speak out either online or publicly? Do you ha…

> Living in Germany, do you find yourself being hesitant to speak out either online or publicly?

No.

> Do you have a clear enough expectation of what would a judge would rule with regards to speech? And do you ever worry about how those existing laws could be misused in the future by people with more strict opinions of what speech is off limits?

You are quite safe both from the law and criticism if you stay factual and keep fact statements and your subjective judgements identifable as such.

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Post by zlg_codes »

zlg_codes wrote: post #10
shunyaekam wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. Some examples of niche content would be interesting.

What do you think doujins are?

Explain your flags, there is nothing incorrect about doujins being niche content. Is this place no better than Reddit?

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Post by rchaud »

DeathArrow wrote: post #39

What's the difference between a "personal" website and a blog? Many people run blogging platforms such as wordpress to host their personal websites. It's just that they call them "blogs" and not "personal websites". To me, the only difference is that "personal website" is an older and less frequently used term.

A blog shows posts in descending order of date. That's the only visible bit of information architecture so it influences how you use the site.

A personal website or fan page might not be set up that way. Unlike a blog, it may not feature periodic posts. It could just be one big page that's incrementally updated with no visible date. Every page may be designed differently, as the backend may be pure HTML/CSS without any templating rules.

I frequently re-read this great article talking about the fundamental shift in the Internet brought about by the blog medium.

Article:https://stackingthebricks.com/how-blogs-broke-the-web/

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34387754

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Post by numpad0 »

Search Avoidance and extraneous warnings aren't about avoiding Western Cancel Culture, it's simply to avoid Japanese peer cancellation IRL. Female doujin author space used to be and still is crazy toxic, and they go extra miles to stay away from crazy people, some of them being men and some women. Lots of artists themselves are in fact also clinically insane/depressed as well, which is also contributing factor to these behaviors.

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Post by numpad0 »

hooverd wrote: post #20
RicoElectrico wrote: post #3

Now this should go without saying, but when browsing through these search engines and the sites within them, please respect the people running these sites. You're stepping on their part of the world, not yours, and as such, you will find stuff that you won't necessarily jibe with—or you'll encounter fringe content that, to put it lightly, has a very niche audience; but despite this, respect these people's personal sp…

Guro content, loli content, guro loli content. Stuff like "Unfortunate Girl 03". I can't imagine what else would cause such a reaction.

Doesn't take that much to trigger western audiences. There are some as-yet characterized trigger conditions in anime content that cause violent rage reactions to non-Japanese-mainstream cohorts. No one knows what it is(at least Japanese users don't).

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Post by ponorin »

d-z-m wrote: post #53
ponorin wrote: post #47

> how differently do people over in the East Asian sphere (primarily Japan) handle I don't see any other example other than the Japanese? East Asia is not like Europe where the border is blurry and services are interchangable. Even moreso in the context of the Internet. The 3 big economies: China, Korea, and Japan, all have their own search engine, their own messenger, their own payment system (even their own card ne…

I don't think the author is saying that East Asian culture is primarily Japanese. I think the author is saying they will focus on Japan in their analysis of personal websites.

Of course it doesn't say, but by saying "browsing the eastern side" it assumes/suggests it is.
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