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Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by nicoburns »

carstenhag wrote: post #10
baz00 wrote: post #2

IP55. Nope. I'd kill that in 30 seconds. My phone case looks like a fish bowl on some days.

What are you doing with it? Never had a waterproof phone, never needed one. I guess very few people benefit from it on a day to day basis. Most value is just there in case of accidents

> I guess very few people benefit from it on a day to day basis. Most value is just there in case of accidents

That's true, but some people have more accidents than others! If you're the sort of person who drops their phone in water every couple of months then a waterproof phone ends up being a huge cost saving.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

mikece wrote: post #12
iandanforth wrote: post #11

I'd buy one if it had a headphone jack!

How many current phones have a headphone jack? When I upgraded from my Pixel 4a to the 6a (both running Graphene OS) I never noticed that the headphone jack was "missing" because I use a Bose bluetooth headset. And when I want to route the audio through my car speakers? Oh... I have a USB-C pigtail splitter which allows for power to be passed through another UBS-C port and connection to the car audio system through a…

I need a headphone jack. My car doesn't have an aux input (I have to use a cassette adapter), let alone Bluetooth. It's 20 years old, yes, but it's not that uncommon to have a car that old.

More importantly, even if I didn't need one I would still want one. A headphone jack is a universal connection for audio, Bluetooth is not. And wired headphones are strictly superior to wireless headphones, as they don't need to be charged and can't be lost as easily.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by biomcgary »

carstenhag wrote: post #10
baz00 wrote: post #2

IP55. Nope. I'd kill that in 30 seconds. My phone case looks like a fish bowl on some days.

What are you doing with it? Never had a waterproof phone, never needed one. I guess very few people benefit from it on a day to day basis. Most value is just there in case of accidents

My wife's phone died in a bucket of goat milk. All those calcium ions are great conductors.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by sgift »

TrueGeek wrote: post #16
baz00 wrote: post #2

IP55. Nope. I'd kill that in 30 seconds. My phone case looks like a fish bowl on some days.

I'm surprised you're getting downvoted. The iPhone has been IP67 since iPhone 7 (so 7 years now). I figured more people appreciated this. I assume most Androids are the same. It's nice to be able to go kayaking and not worry about having to have a waterproof case. Mine once spent 10 hours in a back cycling jersey pocket where it rained the entire time and it was perfectly fine.

There's obviously a trade-off between able to open the case without having to glue it back together - which is kind of needed for good repairability - and having IP67. It don't think it's even possible tbh. If you have screws, you'll have gaps and since IP67 has to be completely dust proof (not only dust protected as IP5) and water proof for 30 minutes in 1m water it's kind of a silly ask for anything repairable.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by sgift »

baz00 wrote: post #15
carstenhag wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you doing with it? Never had a waterproof phone, never needed one. I guess very few people benefit from it on a day to day basis. Most value is just there in case of accidents

I live in the UK. It rains here. A lot. And I need to take calls.

I think you are good with IP55 in that case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_code

> Water projected by a nozzle (6.3 mm (0.25 in)) against enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects.

> Test duration: 1 minute per square meter for at least 3 minutes

> Water volume: 12.5 litres per minute Pressure: 30 kPa (4.4 psi) at distance of 3 meters (9.8 ft)

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by Buxato »

sowbug wrote: post #8

Motivated by this article, and already thinking about handing down my current phone to a family member as a Christmas gift, I visited the Fairphone store ( https://shop.fairphone.com/ though likely available only on Amazon in the US) and read one review ( https://www.theverge.com/23895548/fairphone-5-review-price-f... ). Here's why I'm holding off. 1. No wireless charging. Switching to this phone would require a big…

1. Always sad for me to know how much popular are wireless chargers, wasting 47% more energy aprox for charging the same as a wired charger. https://debugger.medium.com/wireless-charging-is-a-disaster-... (too much catastrophic conclusions in this article but that percentage is real, you could check it in another tests, articles, whatever ..)

2. Totally agree with that, if camera is fundamental for you maybe not the right choice.

3. They also take compromises to have an ethical production, try to guarantee there is no exploitation as much as they could, from the extraction of mineral, manufacturing ... (they didn't do it for all, but they are advancing as far as they could, also with all existing certifications for that, so it's normal that is expensive. So our choice to value that things, if we could afford it, or not.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by sowbug »

stevehawk wrote: post #5
baz00 wrote: post #2

IP55. Nope. I'd kill that in 30 seconds. My phone case looks like a fish bowl on some days.

i think it's safe to say that you're not the average phone user.

I've heard that in Japan, it's common to use phones while showering. My N=1 observation is that this would be unusual in the US.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by NewJazz »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #22
mikece wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many current phones have a headphone jack? When I upgraded from my Pixel 4a to the 6a (both running Graphene OS) I never noticed that the headphone jack was "missing" because I use a Bose bluetooth headset. And when I want to route the audio through my car speakers? Oh... I have a USB-C pigtail splitter which allows for power to be passed through another UBS-C port and connection to the car audio system through a…

I need a headphone jack. My car doesn't have an aux input (I have to use a cassette adapter), let alone Bluetooth. It's 20 years old, yes, but it's not that uncommon to have a car that old. More importantly, even if I didn't need one I would still want one. A headphone jack is a universal connection for audio, Bluetooth is not. And wired headphones are strictly superior to wireless headphones, as they don't need to b…

Couldn't you keep an adapter in your car?

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by babypuncher »

TrueGeek wrote: post #16
baz00 wrote: post #2

IP55. Nope. I'd kill that in 30 seconds. My phone case looks like a fish bowl on some days.

I'm surprised you're getting downvoted. The iPhone has been IP67 since iPhone 7 (so 7 years now). I figured more people appreciated this. I assume most Androids are the same. It's nice to be able to go kayaking and not worry about having to have a waterproof case. Mine once spent 10 hours in a back cycling jersey pocket where it rained the entire time and it was perfectly fine.

I appreciate it. I like knowing my phone can survive a quick rinse in the sink when it gets dirty.
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