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Why does everyone complain like it is an American issue? It’s an Elon issue, he hates unions and does it very publicly. For decades, Ford and others have factories in Europe and have union members.
Because the previous examples of companies trying to avoid collective agreements have been American (notably Toys'R'Us and McDonalds)
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Well, its wikipedia. Im not sure what you are arguing against. Sympathy strikes are guaranteed by the Swedish constitution.
> Well, its wikipedia What does that mean?
It is interesting to read the comments. Why do some americans view the strike action in a black/white perspective? If you define a strike very narrowly as to stop work with (partial) loss of pay, then this does not make sense. But a strike can be against one entity, one action or even one person. The workers can say "I will not do this action" and that is a strike too.
The people here honestly, genuinely believe that they will be the next Musk if they just code hard enough.
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I wonder if Norway will pull out of Tesla as well. The Norwegian Pension Fund currently owns 0.87%. Side-note, all its equities are publicly available: https://www.nbim.no/no/oljefondet/investeringene/#/
I will say there are a lot of teslas in Norway. For years they were one of the most popular cars sold due to generous tax breaks. https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tesla-model-y-wins-crushing...
Scandinavia (and to a lesser degree the Nordic countries) is rich, capitalist and early adopting. This not only makes them a valuable market for Tesla. It also represents a threat if they exit. That market, alone, could enable a competitor to scale their EV production through the valley of death.
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I think the postal carriers are within their rights to refuse to make deliveries in support of Tesla purchases, but the government will need to explain why Tesla shouldn't be allowed to explore alternatives for customers to comply with legal requirements.
I very much support workers collecting in solidarity to support each other. I'm not sure that I like the idea of official agents of a state office, or de facto state office, being authorized to independently choose how to execute their duties. Would it also be permitted for a group of socially conservative postal workers to refuse to deliver wedding licenses or legal documents to same sex partnerships? To determine w…
The biggest problem for Tesla right now is that they can't get registration plates since the appeals court reversed the lower court's decision about allowing them to get them during the suit against the transport authority and failing to convince the court in the PostNord suit that they should get temporary relief during that suit.
> they should get temporary relief during that suit Sure, from Tesla. We're talking about a purchase and sale between private parties and a contract dispute between private parties.
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I think the postal carriers are within their rights to refuse to make deliveries in support of Tesla purchases, but the government will need to explain why Tesla shouldn't be allowed to explore alternatives for customers to comply with legal requirements.
I very much support workers collecting in solidarity to support each other. I'm not sure that I like the idea of official agents of a state office, or de facto state office, being authorized to independently choose how to execute their duties. Would it also be permitted for a group of socially conservative postal workers to refuse to deliver wedding licenses or legal documents to same sex partnerships? To determine w…
It is interesting to read the comments. Why do some americans view the strike action in a black/white perspective? If you define a strike very narrowly as to stop work with (partial) loss of pay, then this does not make sense. But a strike can be against one entity, one action or even one person. The workers can say "I will not do this action" and that is a strike too.
For the purposes of a business negotiation, a strike means to refuse to sell your labor for under a certain price. Picking and choosing who you refuse to sell your labor to quickly encroaches on tribalism that has historically played out with negative consequences.
I imagine the reason this has not gone badly (that I know of, I guess) is Sweden is relatively monocultural. In a society with more tribal boundaries like the US, I feel like this could be a bigger problem.
In my opinion, these groups striking would be engaging in business negotations if they chose to completely stop working until their demands were met (which in this case seems to be another group's minimum compensation).
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> plays ball Which is the case for 99% of companies. It’s only American ones internationally expanding who don’t realise other economies operate differently that get stung with this.
Why does everyone complain like it is an American issue? It’s an Elon issue, he hates unions and does it very publicly. For decades, Ford and others have factories in Europe and have union members.
Because it largely is.
> For decades, Ford and others have factories in Europe and have union members.
These were handled very differently.
For the most part those were independent subsidiaries, under the same brand but playing with their own set of rules.
They commonly had different lineups entirely, for instance the Ford Focus was created in cooperation by the british (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_of_Britain) and German (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Germany) teams of Ford of Europe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_of_Europe), and while the Focus was designed as an international car, it is the direct descendent of Ford of Europe's first passenger car the Escort (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)), which itself directly descends from Ford of Britain's Anglia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Anglia).
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> Well, its wikipedia What does that mean?
Wikipedia still has some ways to go when it comes to the history of various smaller countries, I guess. And in even in English it has some gaps.