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Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in
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Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in
#22The biggest problem for Tesla right now is that they can't get registration plates since the appeals court reversed the lower court's decision about allowing them to get them during the suit against the transport authority and failing to convince the court in the PostNord suit that they should get temporary relief during that suit.
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#23Striking should be legal, but firing employees for striking should also be legal.
Every work condition you take for grant--8 hour days, weekends, vacations, paid leave, to name a few--is the fruit of the labor movement, labor organization and strikes.
Consider the Homestead strike [1] where companies hired private mercenaries (ie the Pinkertons) to commit violence to break the strike. People died.
Consider US auto makers [2]:
> Tesla workers earn on average about $55 an hour in wages and benefits, compared to $66 to $71 an hour at Detroit’s Big Three, according to CNN research. If the Detroit automakers come to agreement with the UAW, it will widen the gap between those unionized and non-unionized wages.
Unions benefit non-union members too [3]:
> Each 1 percentage point increase in private-sector union membership rates translates to about a 0.3 percent increase in nonunion wages.
The disdain for unions (by Americans in particular) while being completely oblivious to the benefits they enjoy because of unions has to be one of the most successful propaganda wins of the last century. Siding with the world's richest man over your own interests makes absolutely no sense.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_strike
[2]: https://cleantechnica.com/2023/10/26/tesla-continues-to-be-a...
[3]: https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/labor-unions...
Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in
#24Striking should be legal, but firing employees for striking should also be legal.
This comes to mind: https://twitter.com/HoldenShearer/status/998913016925220865
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#25> Postal workers even decided not to deliver mail to the electric automaker, including license plates – an action that Musk called "insane". The local court has since put a stop to that action.
This is no longer true. A higher court overturned that decision and the license plates are again blocked from reaching Tesla.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Striking workers aren’t paid in the first place. Allowing collective bargainers to be fired creates an unbalanced system where employers always have more leverage than workers. Think about it this way: how do I fire the corporations that I’m forced to patronize? Can you survive modern life without buying a single product from Unilever/Nestle/P&G/J&J? How do you make a video call to your family without Google/Apple/Mi…
> Striking workers aren’t paid in the first place.
Mostly correct. But unions save the union dues and pay it back to striking workers as compensation for the lost income from work.
For example union members at Tesla get 100% wage compensated:
> Members at Tesla receive conflict compensation from day one when the conflict breaks out. The compensation is 100 percent of the income you would have received if you had worked. This also applies for you who apply for membership during the conflict and the compensation is paid from day one of your membership.
https://www.ifmetall.se/aktuellt/tesla/strejk--ratten-att-va...
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doing so would prevent people from striking against unfair conditions, because they would lose the ability to feed themselves, and so would rather suffer bad working conditions. If you care at all about human beings, you should not be able to fire people simply because they voice their concerns about unfair working conditions, etc.
Showing up at work is not mandatory. Only do it if you want.
Strikes are to thank for that.
Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in
#28Striking should be legal, but firing employees for striking should also be legal.
That will lead to extrajudicial action from the workers.
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Striking workers aren’t paid in the first place. Allowing collective bargainers to be fired creates an unbalanced system where employers always have more leverage than workers. Think about it this way: how do I fire the corporations that I’m forced to patronize? Can you survive modern life without buying a single product from Unilever/Nestle/P&G/J&J? How do you make a video call to your family without Google/Apple/Mi…
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