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Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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The Dutch firm Ecory was commissioned to research the impact of piracy for several months, eventually submitting a 304-page report to the EU in May 2015. The report concluded that: “In general, the results do not show robust statistical evidence of displacement of sales by online copyright infringements. That does not necessarily mean that piracy has no effect but only that the statistical analysis does not prove with sufficient reliability that there is an effect.”

https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-...

https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_s...

https://web.archive.org/web/20231206082938/https://gizmodo.c...

https://web.archive.org/web/20231204151912/https://cdn.netzp...

If piracy is a problem, solution is to make it possible to buy that content online. Not everything is yet possible to buy.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone I know argued a number of years back that Napster was about convenience not price. I disagreed at the time. And I still think that's too blunt a statement for the population as a whole. But the popularity of streaming music services in particular does suggest there's definitely a lot of truth to it for many people at the right price point.

when you are young you have a lot of time and not a lot of money. Naturally attracted to piracy. When you are an adult you have more money then time. Naturally attracted to just buy it as its the easiest. You might never be able to root out piracy amongst the young people and if you do they will not pay since they cannot afford it. But doing so will make your service less convenient for everyone. So you gained no ext…

People with more time than money vs. people with more money than time applies in a lot of contexts. You even see it in a company context--why pay someone for this service when you could just do it yourself? I know I could do it in a day. (Well, it's a distraction that we don't need and, if we can offload it that makes sense for us to do.)

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I'd stop paying for Netflix well before I'd stop paying for Spotify because Spotify has much closer to the "everything"of that particular form of entertainment than Netflix does, and new albums and songs are relatively instantly available on the service. For whatever reason, the ability to arrange music licensing to allow for an aggregator of everything is much easier than for movie and TV show licensing.

The problem I have with Spotify is the money I pay doesn’t go to the artists I potentially to. If I pay £15 a month and listen to 15 different artists 50 times each I would expect each artist to get £1 minus costs, so say 50p. But they don’t, they instead get a fraction of that.

That’s my biggest problem with Spotify.

When I was younger I’d always have music playing in the background but now I only listen to music intentionally – mostly when I’m walking in town or on public transport. I usually download a select number of albums in advance and listen to complete albums at a time – just as I did with other media. Ideally, my monthly Spotify spend would be divided among the few artists that I actually listen to. Instead, the (small) share of revenue that the artist gets is their fractional share of what everyone else is listening to (most likely as background† music, selected by a Spotify algorithm or playlist), i.e., it’s not proportional to the amount of times that I listen to the artist.

† I’d often hear good music being played in a small (usually independent, not a chain) store or café where the workers have some control over what they’re listening to in their work-place. In the past, I used to discover new music and have some good conversations by asking staff in a shop what is the music they’re playing on the sound system. For the past few years, that hasn’t worked so well: the staff stare blankly, are surprised at the question and/or show no interest in what’s being fed to them by Spotify.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem I have with Spotify is the money I pay doesn’t go to the artists I potentially to. If I pay £15 a month and listen to 15 different artists 50 times each I would expect each artist to get £1 minus costs, so say 50p. But they don’t, they instead get a fraction of that.

there are other apps that are more fair than spotify but less convenient

Which ones? And why are they less convenient?

I like Spotify and use it a lot, but I think their UI is somewhat okay at best.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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post #44

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> Illegal downloading of copyrighted materials takes up 24% of the global bandwidth. Completely impossible. Think of how much bandwidth is used for HD streaming of twitch, netflix, ABC-XYZ +, and social media. Piracy making up even 5% of global bandwidth usage is being overly generous.

Might be able to get to 24% if "illegal downloading of copyrighted material" includes porn.

But in many jurisdictions that would still be completely legal as long as you didn't share the downloaded content with others.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#167

wonder if this coincides with the Netflix promise to be the single platform to get all content failing. I'm on Netflix & Prime yet I still don't find the things I want to watch.

I also got Netflix and Prime. Recently, I wanted to rewatch House M.D. on Prime, but it's not available in my country anymore. I'm forced to use a VPN to enjoy content I am already paying for.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Illegal downloading of copyrighted materials takes up 24% of the global bandwidth. Completely impossible. Think of how much bandwidth is used for HD streaming of twitch, netflix, ABC-XYZ +, and social media. Piracy making up even 5% of global bandwidth usage is being overly generous.

Might be able to get to 24% if "illegal downloading of copyrighted material" includes porn.

Porn was excluded from the study.

"What we're looking at is any type of infringing content. Film content, television, books, software, games, music. The only thing we're not looking at is pornography."

https://web.archive.org/web/20131005143240/http://www.netnam...

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#170
> Internet piracy isn’t ethically justifiable,

Let's try.

In the context of the ongoing debate on media piracy, recent actions by major streaming companies have brought to light a critical ethical dilemma. These corporations, wielding considerable monopolistic power, have increasingly adopted practices that can be seen as coercive and unethical, compelling consumers to reconsider the moral justification of piracy.

1. Price Hikes Amidst Monopolistic Control: Major streaming services like Disney+, Hulu, and Netflix have recently raised their subscription prices significantly. This increase, occurring within a relatively short span, demonstrates a trend of exploiting consumer dependency on these platforms. The illusion of fair pricing is often shattered by the fact that cheaper tiers lack standard features, pushing consumers towards more expensive options.

2. Dilution of Ownership Rights: The Sony PlayStation incident, where over 1,300 purchased TV shows were removed from user libraries without refunds, starkly highlights the erosion of digital ownership rights. This action represents a flagrant disregard for consumer investment and trust, characterizing a monopolistic overreach that undermines the very principles of fair trade and respect for consumer rights.

3. Ad-Inundated Streaming Experiences: The proliferation of ad-supported streaming models, even on platforms that previously promised ad-free experiences, adds another layer of coercion. This shift towards ad-laden content not only disrupts the viewing experience but also subtly coerces consumers into higher-priced, ad-free tiers.

4. Preservation of Cultural Artifacts: Piracy, in this context, emerges as a necessary counter to these unethical practices. It serves as a tool for preserving media in its original form, unaltered by corporate censorship or modern-day ethical reinterpretation. This aspect of piracy is crucial for maintaining the integrity of historical and cultural works.

5. Economic and Technical Exploitation: The technical details, such as limited bit depth and lack of HD in cheaper streaming options, are often obscured from the average consumer. This tactic of exploiting consumer ignorance for profit further emphasizes the unethical nature of these corporate strategies.

In the face of such corporate tyranny, piracy becomes a form of ethical defiance. It is a stand against the exploitation and manipulation of consumer rights and choices. While the legal implications of piracy cannot be ignored, the moral compulsion to resist monopolistic coercion and preserve the integrity of media content presents a compelling counter-argument.

The issue of piracy transcends mere legal boundaries and delves into the realm of ethical resistance. It's a call for fairer practices, transparency, and respect for consumer rights in the face of corporate monopolies that prioritize profit over ethical considerations.

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