23andMe updates their TOS to force binding arbitration
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23andMe updates their TOS to force binding arbitration
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Re: 23andMe updates their TOS to force binding arbitration
#2My mother innocently used this service, and filled out the form identifying all relatives by name.
The results she received were entirely unenlightening, 50% of my DNA is now in their sketchy database, and I have no way to opt-out of anything.
I truly despise this organization.
Re: 23andMe updates their TOS to force binding arbitration
#3“… encourage a prompt resolution of any disputes and to streamline arbitration proceedings where multiple similar claims are filed“
Someone’s getting ready for some fallout from data leaks.
Re: 23andMe updates their TOS to force binding arbitration
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Re: 23andMe updates their TOS to force binding arbitration
#5“… encourage a prompt resolution of any disputes and to streamline arbitration proceedings where multiple similar claims are filed“ Someone’s getting ready for some fallout from data leaks.
Heh they are really having it both ways!
Re: 23andMe updates their TOS to force binding arbitration
#6"If you have not notified us... you will be deemed to have agreed..."
Is changing the terms of a service agreement with no confirmation/acceptance from the user even legal or enforceable?
Re: 23andMe updates their TOS to force binding arbitration
#7The more TOS I read through, the more it seems we need a "common law" solution.
(I use the term "common law" loosely here)
Something like a couple of pre-defined categories for software services (e.g. info provider, social network, real-world interface) with pre-set rules (e.g. the client cannot attempt to break the social network; the owner of the social network cannot re-sell data to a third party).
We have something like this for brick'n'mortar retail already -- each store can't just make up their own rules but rather has to operate within a societal framework.
The system we have right now leads to every corporation being incentivized to claim as much legal ground as possible in the TOS, leading to a de-facto corpo-state. It also undermines the rule of law in a cultural sense since many things in the TOS may be deemed unenforceable when actually challenged in court. The users will always be is a several disadvantageous bargaining position.
Re: 23andMe updates their TOS to force binding arbitration
#8My mother innocently used this service, and filled out the form identifying all relatives by name. The results she received were entirely unenlightening, 50% of my DNA is now in their sketchy database, and I have no way to opt-out of anything. I truly despise this organization.
I fully agree with everything you say, but until legislation is enforced you can hardly blame a company for capitalizing on the lack of privacy laws (you can still hate them).
Point is, start demanding legislation around data privacy and security to anyone who will listen.
Re: 23andMe updates their TOS to force binding arbitration
#9"If you have not notified us... you will be deemed to have agreed..." Is changing the terms of a service agreement with no confirmation/acceptance from the user even legal or enforceable?
Yes, companies do it all the time.
Re: 23andMe updates their TOS to force binding arbitration
#10The more TOS I read through, the more it seems we need a "common law" solution. (I use the term "common law" loosely here) Something like a couple of pre-defined categories for software services (e.g. info provider, social network, real-world interface) with pre-set rules (e.g. the client cannot attempt to break the social network; the owner of the social network cannot re-sell data to a third party). We have somethi…
Terms of service and end-user license agreements essentially serve more as private legislation than an actually negotiated contract.