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Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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This was an interesting read. I accidentally do something similar by explicitly denying all automated access via robots.txt. Just like the script, it's not a 100% effective way to keep unwanted attention out, but it's enough to avoid a first-pass attempt. Midway through the conversation, I thought about what reverse uBlock would look like. Would this look like a firewall, or some other dedicated piece of software? I…

Do common browsers still send Referer headers?

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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This was an interesting read. I accidentally do something similar by explicitly denying all automated access via robots.txt. Just like the script, it's not a 100% effective way to keep unwanted attention out, but it's enough to avoid a first-pass attempt. Midway through the conversation, I thought about what reverse uBlock would look like. Would this look like a firewall, or some other dedicated piece of software? I…

Do common browsers still send Referer headers?

I'm not really sure, it's low-hanging fruit for privacy, so it's one of the first things you can do to stop leaking your history around the Web. It's quite easy to defeat a referer check, just like robots.txt can be bypassed by the robot simply not requesting or checking it.

But the things that do behave predictably or respect limitations, will. This won't fix the problem, but it lowers the amount of work you have to do to get the rest of them.

If I was that concerned about things I think I'd either stop hosting them, or put out a shared secret or something and require a password.

I can't blame people for deciding they only want positive interactions on the Web and are willing to put technical things in place to help it be possible. I'd be more interested in a lower-level approach, at the server or network level if possible, to simply isolate unwanted IP ranges and domains.

If a server has `0.0.0.0 google.com` in /etc/hosts and Google tries connecting... what happens? Timed out connection?

Selective or conditional publishing is an interesting idea that I don't think we've explored enough.

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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I wonder if there's a desire for a western equivalent with the same rules?

I sorta doubt it. Anybody who speaks Japanese knows it's really hard to get reliable information on topics searching the Japanese web. You find all these Matome and personal sites that are loose with their sources or unclear with their phrasing. It's interesting because you do actual web "surfing" and learn a lot more interesting things along the way, but it's not good for centralized knowledge or social interaction.…

For some values of "nobody"; this westerner enjoys https://search.marginalia.nu (in addition to more common engines) and has high hopes for the new site browser: https://search.marginalia.nu/site/bikobatanari.art?view=info

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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My wife runs a website like this on one of the Japanese somewhat social media sites. I say somewhat because it doesn't look much like what we think of as social media. It's fascinating because she can see who drops by to read her stuff, and she has a significant number of followers, but it's very passive. No comments, no likes, no interaction at all. The only way people can show their support is by subscribing, and e…

> ...it's very passive. No comments, no likes...

We get a fair number of tourists from a famous western country who gush about how this is wonderful and that is amazing and have you even seen the thing over there? One doesn't need to ask where they're from; one hears them coming from 50m off. I wonder if they view their fellow tourists from more reserved cultures as being more passive?

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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My wife runs a website like this on one of the Japanese somewhat social media sites. I say somewhat because it doesn't look much like what we think of as social media. It's fascinating because she can see who drops by to read her stuff, and she has a significant number of followers, but it's very passive. No comments, no likes, no interaction at all. The only way people can show their support is by subscribing, and e…

> … she can see who drops by to read her stuff.

What kinds of information does she get? Does “subscribing” mean users create an account and therefore the visitors are always tracked? I’m definitely interested in technical details.

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Do common browsers still send Referer headers?

I'm not really sure, it's low-hanging fruit for privacy, so it's one of the first things you can do to stop leaking your history around the Web. It's quite easy to defeat a referer check, just like robots.txt can be bypassed by the robot simply not requesting or checking it. But the things that do behave predictably or respect limitations, will. This won't fix the problem, but it lowers the amount of work you have to…

> If a server has `0.0.0.0 google.com` in /etc/hosts and Google tries connecting... what happens? Timed out connection?

The usual thing happens. Host lookup is not a firewall mechanism for incoming connections.

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Yeah. Some examples of niche content would be interesting.

What do you think doujins are?

They are just self-published works, nothing more. Yes, some are NSFW, but is it different to self-published stories elsewhere? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doujinshi

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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My wife runs a website like this on one of the Japanese somewhat social media sites. I say somewhat because it doesn't look much like what we think of as social media. It's fascinating because she can see who drops by to read her stuff, and she has a significant number of followers, but it's very passive. No comments, no likes, no interaction at all. The only way people can show their support is by subscribing, and e…

> … she can see who drops by to read her stuff. What kinds of information does she get? Does “subscribing” mean users create an account and therefore the visitors are always tracked? I’m definitely interested in technical details.

It's on a site that's a social media site in that everyone there has an account, but it's more like a blog site. Those are the people she sees specifically, though it lets her know if non-logged in visitors visit as well.

As far as subscribing, it's like following, or an RSS feed. They just get notified when she posts. It doesn't show up on their homepage or anything, just gives them a notification that she wrote a new page.

The specific website is www.ameba.co.jp if you want to take a look.

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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> … she can see who drops by to read her stuff. What kinds of information does she get? Does “subscribing” mean users create an account and therefore the visitors are always tracked? I’m definitely interested in technical details.

It's on a site that's a social media site in that everyone there has an account, but it's more like a blog site. Those are the people she sees specifically, though it lets her know if non-logged in visitors visit as well. As far as subscribing, it's like following, or an RSS feed. They just get notified when she posts. It doesn't show up on their homepage or anything, just gives them a notification that she wrote a n…

Thanks for the quick reply - very helpful answers!

Re: Browsing the Eastern Side of the Personal Web

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Now this should go without saying, but when browsing through these search engines and the sites within them, please respect the people running these sites. You're stepping on their part of the world, not yours, and as such, you will find stuff that you won't necessarily jibe with—or you'll encounter fringe content that, to put it lightly, has a very niche audience; but despite this, respect these people's personal sp…

Guro content, loli content, guro loli content. Stuff like "Unfortunate Girl 03". I can't imagine what else would cause such a reaction.
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