If you think world governments can’t back door into any aspect of your life, you’ve been deluding yourself.
Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push notifications
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I bet you've committed at least a ticketable offense in the past 48 hours, unless you are a true hermit. Our laws were not designed for a society with perfect surveillance.
This is quite the proposition. You think that the average person commits a legal offense at least every 2 days? What examples are you proposing? If you count speeding, sure I guess.
Yes. Every time someone changes lanes without signalling 200ft prior. Every time someone goes 56 instead of 55. Every time someone operates any kind of vehicle after having more than one drink. Any time someone is drunk in public (in many states). Probably a huge number of gun owners in states with legal cannabis. Any time someone walks across a street without a protected "walk" sign.
These are the ones I can brainstorm in 30 seconds.
If the government could enforce every law on the books with perfect accuracy and with 100% effectiveness, it would be intolerably oppressive.
Laws are written often with the expectation that enforcement will not be perfect, that between impracticality and officer discretion, that such laws will be a net positive without being silly.
We are coming up on a time of government surveillance and data analysis technology (AI) that we will not be able to escape the panopticon. Laws or enforcement will have to adapt.
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#513How does signal address this? I always wondered
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Also, no Signal.
This isn't necessarily true. When you install the Signal app on an Android phone that doesn't have Google Play Services installed, it receives push notifications using its own notification daemon instead of using Google's. This, of course, has significant battery life costs.
Not true. Battery double liftime on my LineageOS device without gaaps and other gservices that constantly connect to gservers.
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Gosh I am so happy to have like the best senator in the senate next to Bernie Sanders in Oregon. Oregon is an extremely based state. Y'all crap on PDX but the reality is that we have more freedom and less tyranny here than in any other state in the nation, and possibly in the world. PDX is "bad" because it's one of the only places in the world that hated the cops enough to actually muzzle them - and not living in fea…
> Want to smoke weed? The tyranny of the masses is still a tyranny. I'd personally like to move to a state where all smoking, but at least weed smoking, is illegal. I really don't like second hand smoke, especially when it smells and hangs as much as weed smoke does.
This comment is rather obtuse.
You want to live in a state where all smoking is illegal?
Because you don’t like the smell of weed smoke?
How interesting.
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#516Earlier quoted context omitted.
As mentioned, there are already laws around smoking in public. OP is complaining that he might get a whiff coming from his neighbors house.
https://www.greenstate.com/explained/where-is-it-legal-to-sm... > In a few states, however, public consumption is completely tolerated or allowed in licensed lounges and designated areas. And the laws as is make it easy for people to lie to the police about exactly where they were when they were smoking the weed.
Because that doesn’t matter and this is a useless argument.
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With this belief, does anything really matter?
you're right.... The CIA and, by extension, the US government as a whole (or any subgroup thereof) have never altered the outcome of elections anywhere for regime change, and have never instigated color revolutions for regime change.
If your belief is correct in that the Congress and President are coerced into doing what the shadow government wants, then they would have zero need for a revolution or regime change in the United States.
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He even inspired Snowden to expose the illegal mass surveillance programs. IIRC Snowden reached a breaking point when James Clapper, then director of national intelligence, lied under oath to Congress when pressed about domestic surveillance by senator Wyden. It's sad we don't hear more about people like this in positions of power.
Good thing there is no penalties for lying under oath anymore. That pesky rule of law was so long in the tooth.
Google tells me perjury is still very much a thing. Do you have a source?
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#520It's time for a privacy bill of rights. You have to attach inalienable rights to people and then enforce them at the civil rights level.
These things are troubling now. In the post AGI world these are much more difficult problems because the data becomes training for purposes far beyond anything that could be foreseen in the data collection questions.