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Re: EU Integrity Watch

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Post by nona »

supriyo-biswas wrote: post #37
nona wrote: post #7

The first three comments within the hour that this article was posted, were made by a 10-minutes old account and seem suspiciously like anti-EU astroturfing. Makes me hope or wish for a cross-website pseudonymous karma system, to at least rein in this kind of public opinion gaming. Back on-topic: this website seems to be a net positive, already it's challenging some of my preconceptions in that some EU member states…

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data.

Fair enough, I'll keep it in mind for next time.

Re: EU Integrity Watch

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Post by nona »

paganel wrote: post #21
RandomLensman wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In quite a few European countries the government isn't directly elected - so "unelected" is a bit tricky here unless you are extending that to those national governments, too.

Of course that I'm extending that to any unelected government/political entity whose decisions happen to affect people's lives on a national level (so I'm skipping the discussion about the unelected local "mayors"/leaders from some big European cities, even though a discussion should be had even there). Thing is that during the last 10 or 15 years (things seem to have accelerated after the latest big financial crisis…

> unelected government/political entity whose decisions happen to affect people's lives on a national level

Since you're referring to Brexit, you mean a political entity like the UK's House of Lords? A lot of the people in the pro-Brexit camp were often blaming EU unelected bureaucrats but seemed to be perfectly fine with their own unelected, appointed for life (and in some cases hereditary) lords.

I would like to understand why. I agree with you it's not all "the Russians' fault", and I may have jumped the gun a bit with my earlier comment. There's definitely a weakness in the disconnect between Brussels and the states/citizens.

Is it a fundamental belief that local government is "better" or more adapted to local circumstances at least? ("sovereignty trumps economy"). Or that a vote for the EU parliament is too "diluted"? Maybe, but being a part of the EU is a trade-off: there's a lot of advantages in being a part of a bigger trading and political bloc.

After the (IMHO) unmitigated disaster that was Brexit, very few other member states still have an appetite for leaving the EU. But it'd be better if the EU was something they'd enthusiastically want to be a part of, instead of begrudgingly. However, eurosceptics seem to have difficulty articulating the changes they'd want to see.

Re: EU Integrity Watch

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Post by hcfman »

hcfman wrote: post #50
arp242 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of corruption are we talking about?

Government facilitated criminality against innocent, non crime involved citizens. Then serious obstruction of justice in the courts themselves to make a criminal case against the own case fail. In the Netherlands they have a concept called “interventions”. They are activities carried out that are supposed to interfere with organised crime. In 2005, one of my neighbours was busted for growing weed. The other neighbour…

Oh the link above should have been

https://www.veiligheidspercepties.nl/

The director of this organisation turned up at my door once.

The prosecutor that lied in court (and had been caught lying in court before as well) retired after my stalking case. His partner that with whom he wax heading up the organisation that runs these interventions left the prosecutors office shortly afterwards after an argument with the head prosecutor. In fact 7 prosecutors were reshuffled that year and no one is asking the questions why

https://www.1limburg.nl/amp/nieuws/1357826/leegloop-bij-just...

And the name of the prosecutor that became the head of a court is mentioned at the end of every episode of this 6 part documentary about 9 innocent people that were sent to jail on fabricated evidence here:

https://kro-ncrv.nl/programmas/villamoord/dit-komt-het-vertr...

The reason that person’s name is mentioned at the end of each episode of this is because she was the head of the organised crime unit in Arnhem till 2010. After that she became the head of the Maastricht organised crime unit and then became responsible and then after that the head of team interventions where she was responsible for what was being done to me.

In Dutch courts a prosecutor in a criminal case is aided by a secretary called parketsecretaris. I always wondered if the prosecutor was trying to make a case deliberately fail. Then surely the secretary must have noticed. I found out years later when I learned that at that time her role was intervention jurist. So she was in on it too.

Nice isn’t it. The Netherlands also holds completely corrupt court cases as bad as in the worst dictatorships.

Re: EU Integrity Watch

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Post by paganel »

f_devd wrote: post #43
gafage wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"revert the EU to its original purpose, before it was taken over by overreaching bureaucrats: A free trade area." That seems completely reasonable.

Not sure where the quote is from but EU has always been a political alliance, maybe you/they mean the EEA?

> Not sure where the quote is from but EU has always been a political alliance,

That's demonstrably not true. Granted, that's what Jean Monnet and his disciples had (and still have) in mind, but that's not what was presented as the face of this supra-state association as soon as the 2000s.

That's why many people are so upset about it since the gloves have come off about the true intent of those Jean Monnet followers, which by my (previously stated) estimation started happening in the last 10-15 years.

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