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Re: Gemini AI

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One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…

> Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly Reminds me of the Stadia reveal, where the first words out of his mouth were along the lines of "I'll admit, I'm not much of a gamer" This dude needs a new speech writer.

Dude needs a new job. He's been the Steve Balmer of Google, ruining what made them great and running the company into the ground.

Re: Gemini AI

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How real is it though? This blog post says In this post, we’ll explore some of the prompting approaches we used in our Hands on with Gemini demo video. which makes it sound like they used text + image prompts and then acted them out in the video, as opposed to Gemini interpreting the video directly. https://developers.googleblog.com/2023/12/how-its-made-gemin...

Yeah I think this comment basically sums up my cynicism about that video. It's that, you know some of this happened and you don't know how much. So when it says "what the quack!" presumably the model was prompted "give me answers in a more fun conversational style" (since that's not the style in any of the other clips) and, like, was it able to do that with just a little hint or did it take a large amount of wranglin…

You can see the cracks in the feature early on:

"What do you think I'm doing? Hint: it's a game."

Anyone with as much "knowledge" as Gemini aught to know it's roshambo.

"Is this the right order? Consider the distance from the sun and explain your reasoning."

Full prompt elided from the video.

Re: Gemini AI

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Seems some of the benchmarks (maybe all?) rely heavily on either CoT or some other additional prompting method to achieve the results. Will their integration into Bard and other consumer products use something similar?

Re: Gemini AI

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One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…

> One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies)

Sundar has been saying this repeatedly since Day 0 of the current AI wave. It's almost cliche for him at this point.

Re: Gemini AI

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Here is what we have so far, correct me if I'm wrong:

Ultra Release: Scheduled for early next year.

Pro with Bard: Positioned between GPT-4 and Ultra in terms of performance. Currently available in the US only.

Benchmarking Notes: The benchmarks shared appear to be selectively chosen.

Demo Video Analysis: It's challenging to ascertain the extent of scripting in the recent demo video - was it real-time or pre-arranged?

Whatever the case, this is very exciting.

Re: Gemini AI

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Investors are getting impatient! ChatGPT has already replaced Google for me and I wonder if Google starts to feel the pressure.

> "ChatGPT has already replaced Google for me" Would you mind elaborating more on this. Like how are you "searching" with ChatGPT?

1. Most coding and documentation questions now go straight to GPT-4

2. Most quick general purpose questions like "What is 4-month sleep regression in babies?" go to GPT-3.5

3. If I want to deep dive on a topic, I find myself either using one of the custom GPTs (Grimoire is great for coding), or increasingly, talking to it via voice chat. It's particularly great if I'm walking around the house doing chores and want to learn something I would otherwise turn to Wikipedia for (say, the successors to Genghis Khan and the various Khanates).

Re: Gemini AI

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This being so high up is so funny in context of yesterday's popular post about the long-term consequences of Google's Chrome.

Re: Gemini AI

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Gemini Ultra isn't released yet and is months away still. Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 No public stats on Gemini Pro. (I'm wrong. Pro stats not on website, but tucked in a paper - https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_... ) I feel this is overstated hype. There is no competitor to GPT-4 being released today. I…

Agreed. The whole things reeks of being desperate. Half the video is jerking themselves off that they've done AI longer than anyone and they "release" (not actually available in most countries) a model that is only marginally better than the current GPT4 in cherry-picked metrics after nearly a year of lead-time?!?! That's your response? Ouch.

maybe they are trying to project stability (no pun intended)
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