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There's an uptick in Amazon employees quitting

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Re: There's an uptick in Amazon employees quitting

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Planned all along. Many roles were hired as remote, with then requiring people to relocate for RTO. Easiest way to downsize.

The real reason for RTO is of course tax benefits that Amazon gets from local/state governments only if there are buts in seats in the office buildings (since people coming into the office means they are in the area which means that they spend money in local restaurants/shops, e.t.c)

Re: There's an uptick in Amazon employees quitting

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Planned all along. Many roles were hired as remote, with then requiring people to relocate for RTO. Easiest way to downsize. The real reason for RTO is of course tax benefits that Amazon gets from local/state governments only if there are buts in seats in the office buildings (since people coming into the office means they are in the area which means that they spend money in local restaurants/shops, e.t.c)

One think I've always wondered about RTO measures is, can they force you to choose bewteen RTO or resign? Or to they have to fire you (and with that entitle you to whatever compensation you deserve)?

Re: There's an uptick in Amazon employees quitting

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Planned all along. Many roles were hired as remote, with then requiring people to relocate for RTO. Easiest way to downsize. The real reason for RTO is of course tax benefits that Amazon gets from local/state governments only if there are buts in seats in the office buildings (since people coming into the office means they are in the area which means that they spend money in local restaurants/shops, e.t.c)

One think I've always wondered about RTO measures is, can they force you to choose bewteen RTO or resign? Or to they have to fire you (and with that entitle you to whatever compensation you deserve)?

How do you force someone to resign?

Re: There's an uptick in Amazon employees quitting

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One think I've always wondered about RTO measures is, can they force you to choose bewteen RTO or resign? Or to they have to fire you (and with that entitle you to whatever compensation you deserve)?

How do you force someone to resign?

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Re: There's an uptick in Amazon employees quitting

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Planned all along. Many roles were hired as remote, with then requiring people to relocate for RTO. Easiest way to downsize. The real reason for RTO is of course tax benefits that Amazon gets from local/state governments only if there are buts in seats in the office buildings (since people coming into the office means they are in the area which means that they spend money in local restaurants/shops, e.t.c)

One think I've always wondered about RTO measures is, can they force you to choose bewteen RTO or resign? Or to they have to fire you (and with that entitle you to whatever compensation you deserve)?

Are people entitled to severance in the USA?

I thought severance packages generally come with some considerations about indemnifying the company and such. Its a deal, not an entitlement.

Forcing an employee to resign is a "Constructive Dismissal" and there's plenty of case law around it.

Re: There's an uptick in Amazon employees quitting

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One think I've always wondered about RTO measures is, can they force you to choose bewteen RTO or resign? Or to they have to fire you (and with that entitle you to whatever compensation you deserve)?

How do you force someone to resign?

That's what I'm asking?

Re: There's an uptick in Amazon employees quitting

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Planned all along. Many roles were hired as remote, with then requiring people to relocate for RTO. Easiest way to downsize. The real reason for RTO is of course tax benefits that Amazon gets from local/state governments only if there are buts in seats in the office buildings (since people coming into the office means they are in the area which means that they spend money in local restaurants/shops, e.t.c)

One think I've always wondered about RTO measures is, can they force you to choose bewteen RTO or resign? Or to they have to fire you (and with that entitle you to whatever compensation you deserve)?

Depends entirely on you local labour laws and the contract you have signed with the company.

If your local labour laws require compensation in cases of Constructive Dismissal, then you are entitled to some kind of severance package.

If not, then it's possible your employment contract will have a clause for "in case of constructive dismissal we will pay X weeks based on employment length" or something. Maybe not likely, but certainly possible.

Re: There's an uptick in Amazon employees quitting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One think I've always wondered about RTO measures is, can they force you to choose bewteen RTO or resign? Or to they have to fire you (and with that entitle you to whatever compensation you deserve)?

How do you force someone to resign?

It's referred to as Constructive Dismissal.

It's basically the idea that you're being subjected to something outside of your contract that has made it impossible (in your view) to keep working for the company, and the company is not willing to accomodate you.

Refusing to go to office when your contract says you are a remote employee is a textbook case of constructive dismissal.

"You are placing a requirement on me that I find impossible to satisfy and you are not willing to negotiate. Therefore I am forced to resign"

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