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An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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I'm with most of this. But then we get to: >In one recent example, voices on the PSF Board were demanding that a condition of funding for a particular PyCon be the formal adoption of a “human rights plan” - a measure that would pose a significant legal and personal risk to its organisers. > >The entitlement and assumption of cultural superiority embodied in these ideas are absurd and offensive. I can't track down wha…

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Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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I would call that stupid because I don't agree with that view, but yes, he would have a right to not sponsor countries that have legal abortion. So what?

Is that the sort of world you want to live in though -- a world where people are constantly trying to impose their politics on others in this way? I think we're all better off if we seek a little more compromise than that. It's like a prisoner's dilemma -- sure, you have the "right" to defect, but we're collectively better off if everyone cooperates. Imagine the warm fuzzy feeling of bonding over a shared love of Pyt…

>a world where people are constantly trying to impose their politics on others in this way?

You know that this is happening from the dawn of human societies, right? There are always some laws and some views that are imposed. It always has been that way, and it always will be

Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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Poor planning to ask for money 6 months in advance? How is that poor planning?

You ask for money far in advance so you can get a no with a reasonable timeframe to switch to something else. Yes is easy, what's you're no plan?

Or you simply are extremely cautious not knowing how bureaucratic and slow the PSF is or is not.

Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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post #321

I'm with most of this. But then we get to: >In one recent example, voices on the PSF Board were demanding that a condition of funding for a particular PyCon be the formal adoption of a “human rights plan” - a measure that would pose a significant legal and personal risk to its organisers. > >The entitlement and assumption of cultural superiority embodied in these ideas are absurd and offensive. I can't track down wha…

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Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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Is the PSF western "by design" or "de facto", the latter being the foundation having "accidentally" only western people on board? In theory the PSF should be worldwide with people from everywhere. Otherwise we should call it "EU+US PSF". However the reality is, it is staffed by westerners and funded by western companies. So it's a de-facto western foundation.

Of course, it's not an accident, but let's not kid ourselves: Python was originally developed by a Westerner, in the West, and the vast majority of PSF funding also originates in the West. To look at that history and then be surprised that it's run by Westerners seems silly to me. > In theory the PSF should be worldwide with people from everywhere. Why?

I never said being surprised. I think we agree on the state we are in.

As for why, well, precisely to avoid the bias at hand here. The tech, despite originating from the west, is what it is: a tech. Especially something as ubiquitous as Python, which is far from being scoped to the west.

We go to great lengths for equity in such boards, promoting openness and such: more women, more LGBT+, people of color, ... But even black people that are included are most often than not are afro-americans living in the west, and not africans living in africa. We always forget about foreign users that are also a minority, except a remote one we can shrug off, unless they are vocal enough.

That said, I acknowledge it may not be possible, the foundation likely being an US nonprofit, so integrating foreigners in the board may be extremely difficult.

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