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Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates

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Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates

#41

When W10 finally stops getting updates, I'm almost certainly going to have to jump back to Linux on my gaming PC. Nothing on this Earth could make me use Windows 11. I highly doubt Windows 12 will be any better.

At this point I would pay handsomely for an alternative to windows that isn't linux or macos. I need windows sans microsoft. Not a command line with partial graphical wrappers and not an OS exclusive to an overpriced line of propriety computers. Windows but open source. Please. Note:I have been on ubuntu for the past year, and hate it. Just like I hated whatever other distros the last 3 times I tried to switch in my…

> I have been on ubuntu for the past year, and hate it.

Just FYI, I use Linux exclusively on my own machines and I hate Ubuntu as well.

Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates

#42

When W10 finally stops getting updates, I'm almost certainly going to have to jump back to Linux on my gaming PC. Nothing on this Earth could make me use Windows 11. I highly doubt Windows 12 will be any better.

At this point I would pay handsomely for an alternative to windows that isn't linux or macos. I need windows sans microsoft. Not a command line with partial graphical wrappers and not an OS exclusive to an overpriced line of propriety computers. Windows but open source. Please. Note:I have been on ubuntu for the past year, and hate it. Just like I hated whatever other distros the last 3 times I tried to switch in my…

I suppose you want ReactOS https://reactos.org/

Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates

#45

When W10 finally stops getting updates, I'm almost certainly going to have to jump back to Linux on my gaming PC. Nothing on this Earth could make me use Windows 11. I highly doubt Windows 12 will be any better.

I put together a new PC and went Windows 11 on it and I have it configured (with a few tools) to be exactly like Windows 10. I also had my Windows 10 configured to be mostly like Windows 7. With some pretty minor changes and maybe purchasing some inexpensive software, Windows 11 is quite decent. Whenever I visit a stock Windows 11 machine I am a bit horrified.

So it is possible to turn off the advertisements in the OS and standard windows applications (that come with the OS)?

Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates

#46

When W10 finally stops getting updates, I'm almost certainly going to have to jump back to Linux on my gaming PC. Nothing on this Earth could make me use Windows 11. I highly doubt Windows 12 will be any better.

So I had similar concerns regarding Windows 11, but I sat down, learned how to clean it up, and put a Creative Commons open source guide for others to follow. I knew many other reluctant friends who are senior devs at prolific companies in the tech space, and with my guide they seem to have no real remaining complaints. It covers both the initial installation, as well as all my post-install recommendations. It elimin…

I've bookmarked your guide, and will use it when I setup a W11 machine in 2025. I haven't used 11 yet, but I understand the taskbar is no longer full length and is now more like the mac dock.

Is there a fix for that other than installing something like OpenShell?

Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates

#47
Despite all the EOS dates and warnings, you can still get "free" monthly security updates for Windows 7 directly from Windows Update [1]. Windows 10 IoT LTSC support ends in 2032 [2]. If the trend continues, as long as you are OK with some morally dubious practices, you can get security updates for your installation for at least 10 years.

[1] https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/up...

[2] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows...

Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I put together a new PC and went Windows 11 on it and I have it configured (with a few tools) to be exactly like Windows 10. I also had my Windows 10 configured to be mostly like Windows 7. With some pretty minor changes and maybe purchasing some inexpensive software, Windows 11 is quite decent. Whenever I visit a stock Windows 11 machine I am a bit horrified.

So it is possible to turn off the advertisements in the OS and standard windows applications (that come with the OS)?

I don't know if I turned them off so much as avoid them entirely. Either way, I don't see any advertisements, links to tabloid articles, anything Bing, etc. Nothing at all. I would say it's identical to Windows 10 for me (which I also clean up a bit).

I use StartAllBack for Start menu and task bar customization.

Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates

#49
> Note that the Windows 10 IoT Enterprise Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) and Windows 10 IoT Enterprise will continue to receive updates based on their specific lifecycles.

This does not affect LTSC users. Updates continue at least until 2027 for mainstream support.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...

Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates

#50
post #3

That's not what security updates are. They are fixes for errors in the original software. They are product recalls for dangerous product faults. You can't charge the customer because the product you shipped them was faulty.

Network hardware vendors have been doing it for years, more money for Microsoft I guess.

Isn't that only Cisco?

HPE Networking (and Procurve before it) at least used to provide firmware updates to their switches without cost.

Hopefully that's not changed in recent years (no idea).

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