Same as usual, they were doing this until just recently with Windows 7 updates https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-clien... Windows 8 didn't get an ESU program though, I have to assume because it didn't get the adoption of 7 and people mostly moved on to 10.
Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates
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Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates
#32When W10 finally stops getting updates, I'm almost certainly going to have to jump back to Linux on my gaming PC. Nothing on this Earth could make me use Windows 11. I highly doubt Windows 12 will be any better.
So I had similar concerns regarding Windows 11, but I sat down, learned how to clean it up, and put a Creative Commons open source guide for others to follow. I knew many other reluctant friends who are senior devs at prolific companies in the tech space, and with my guide they seem to have no real remaining complaints. It covers both the initial installation, as well as all my post-install recommendations. It elimin…
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or force you (the consumer) to upgrade to newer versions with hostile terms of service and/or applications. It works both ways.
This is a really negative take. They could also add hostile terms of service at other times or do hostile things. It's about cost and marketing. Windows N+1 will share a majority of code with Windows N. Microsoft would now have to maintain two copies of the code N and N+1. This is added cost. Alternatively Windows could do continuous releases, but this is less fun to market, and users might not like big changes happe…
The problem isn't the EOL. The problem is that the newer versions of Windows are user-hostile and the alternatives are being retired.
Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
So I had similar concerns regarding Windows 11, but I sat down, learned how to clean it up, and put a Creative Commons open source guide for others to follow. I knew many other reluctant friends who are senior devs at prolific companies in the tech space, and with my guide they seem to have no real remaining complaints. It covers both the initial installation, as well as all my post-install recommendations. It elimin…
Is there a fix for the insidious problem of updates changing your settings to less secure/privacy conscious ones or is that a constant fight we just have to fight if you're on windows?
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there a fix for the insidious problem of updates changing your settings to less secure/privacy conscious ones or is that a constant fight we just have to fight if you're on windows?
Yes. There are suggestions in the guide regarding handling auto updates.
Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates
#36That's not what security updates are. They are fixes for errors in the original software. They are product recalls for dangerous product faults. You can't charge the customer because the product you shipped them was faulty.
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Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates
#37When W10 finally stops getting updates, I'm almost certainly going to have to jump back to Linux on my gaming PC. Nothing on this Earth could make me use Windows 11. I highly doubt Windows 12 will be any better.
I need windows sans microsoft.
Not a command line with partial graphical wrappers and not an OS exclusive to an overpriced line of propriety computers.
Windows but open source. Please.
Note:I have been on ubuntu for the past year, and hate it. Just like I hated whatever other distros the last 3 times I tried to switch in my life.
Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates
#38When W10 finally stops getting updates, I'm almost certainly going to have to jump back to Linux on my gaming PC. Nothing on this Earth could make me use Windows 11. I highly doubt Windows 12 will be any better.
With some pretty minor changes and maybe purchasing some inexpensive software, Windows 11 is quite decent. Whenever I visit a stock Windows 11 machine I am a bit horrified.
Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates
#39When W10 finally stops getting updates, I'm almost certainly going to have to jump back to Linux on my gaming PC. Nothing on this Earth could make me use Windows 11. I highly doubt Windows 12 will be any better.
At this point I would pay handsomely for an alternative to windows that isn't linux or macos. I need windows sans microsoft. Not a command line with partial graphical wrappers and not an OS exclusive to an overpriced line of propriety computers. Windows but open source. Please. Note:I have been on ubuntu for the past year, and hate it. Just like I hated whatever other distros the last 3 times I tried to switch in my…
Re: Microsoft Will Eventually Start Charging You for Windows 10 Security Updates
#40When W10 finally stops getting updates, I'm almost certainly going to have to jump back to Linux on my gaming PC. Nothing on this Earth could make me use Windows 11. I highly doubt Windows 12 will be any better.
At this point I would pay handsomely for an alternative to windows that isn't linux or macos. I need windows sans microsoft. Not a command line with partial graphical wrappers and not an OS exclusive to an overpriced line of propriety computers. Windows but open source. Please. Note:I have been on ubuntu for the past year, and hate it. Just like I hated whatever other distros the last 3 times I tried to switch in my…