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Re: Lobsters

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post #193

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Why do you think "American military-industrial complex" exists? and why is it the most powerful military-industrial thingy in the world?

It exists because the American people have been lulled into the false narrative that their nation protects the world .. when in fact the absolute opposite is true - the worlds safety is constantly under pressure from the 1000 torture sites the American people pay for every single year - the ruling elite of the rest of the world knows this and responds accordingly, thus feeding the loop which justifies yet more actual…

Our world is unjust and replete with suffering. The question is what are you going to do about it?

There's a lot of things you can do to improve your life and the life of people around you. Discussing world problems in an online forum is not one of those things.

These up and down arrows near the comments give us the illusion that we can vote for the solution of everything.

Re: Lobsters

#202
post #187

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If you request an invite here publicly (and have an email in your profile), I’m sure you can easily get one. Also, I haven’t seen anything like tone policing and ‘unprofessionalism’, and I think the boundaries usually are quite objective and trivial.

It's important to choose who you invite, and who invites you, carefully. If the invitee screws up, it reflects poorly on the inviter. If the inviter screws up, everyone they invited may also get looked at. I don't know anyone on Lobsters enough to have that sort of relationship with. I don't really submit things, even here; not worth the trouble of being told something's a bad fit, off-topic, repost, bad title, or so…

Your choice, I was invited that way and didn’t see any negative. The ultimate majority of people are decent beings.

Re: Lobsters

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It's definitely not a ghost town. It's just not a treadmill. It's hard to have a conversation on hacker news because (1) articles cycle through quickly and (2) you don't get reply notifications. Lobsters is a bit more human scale IMO.

To get automated email notifications of replies to your comments see http://www.hnreplies.com/

It's made the site a lot more useful for me, but I discovered too late that it does not track submissions, including AskHN, only comments.

Re: Lobsters

#204
post #152
post #95

How come that this is the first time (might have visited that site several years ago, recognize the CSS in some way) that I hear about lobster.rs? Is the site entirely by invitation or are there at least a couple yearly signup openings?

Sign up is solely via invitation by existing members

Thanks, I'll keep my eyes open for existing members that I might know then

Re: Lobsters

#205
I don't think I've ever posted any articles on Lobsters, but there are a bunch of users there that use the "report" feature any time that they see a post that doesn't support their own personal opinion. That aspect of the site does get old, fast.

But most of the users there are cool. Unfortunately, it only takes a few bad users to make the experience of posting uncomfortable.

Re: Lobsters

#206

I had an account here. I still do. Like some other people point out: Invitation-only means trolls are less likely to show up. But the higher end of quality is not significantly better than HN. If anything, it might be worse. My experience with the moderation there is that some people post clear self-promotion articles, but when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Wh…

The self-promotion on lobsters is rampant, and not surprisingly, most of the self-promotion is very low quality crap.

However, I have seen a few self-promotion links that were brilliant, so I have some mixed feelings on the topic.

I don't have any answers, but I definitely can spot the problems.

Re: Lobsters

#207
post #205

I don't think I've ever posted any articles on Lobsters, but there are a bunch of users there that use the "report" feature any time that they see a post that doesn't support their own personal opinion. That aspect of the site does get old, fast. But most of the users there are cool. Unfortunately, it only takes a few bad users to make the experience of posting uncomfortable.

> but there are a bunch of users there that use the "report" feature any time that they see a post that doesn't support their own personal opinion

how can you tell?

Re: Lobsters

#208
post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It exists because the American people have been lulled into the false narrative that their nation protects the world .. when in fact the absolute opposite is true - the worlds safety is constantly under pressure from the 1000 torture sites the American people pay for every single year - the ruling elite of the rest of the world knows this and responds accordingly, thus feeding the loop which justifies yet more actual…

Our world is unjust and replete with suffering. The question is what are you going to do about it? There's a lot of things you can do to improve your life and the life of people around you. Discussing world problems in an online forum is not one of those things. These up and down arrows near the comments give us the illusion that we can vote for the solution of everything.

One most certainly can be an individual example of change. For example, I refuse to make excuses for the war crimes, crimes against humanity and massive violations of human rights, committed in my name, by my nation.

Discussing it online is perfectly acceptable. Nobody is expecting the criminal Joint Chiefs of Staff to be reading HN, have an epiphany and frog-march themselves in chains into The Hague - but we certainly can put the idea into our fellow citizens minds that this would be a just action and perfectly acceptable way to re-gain control over our society ..

Re: Lobsters

#209
post #205

I don't think I've ever posted any articles on Lobsters, but there are a bunch of users there that use the "report" feature any time that they see a post that doesn't support their own personal opinion. That aspect of the site does get old, fast. But most of the users there are cool. Unfortunately, it only takes a few bad users to make the experience of posting uncomfortable.

> but there are a bunch of users there that use the "report" feature any time that they see a post that doesn't support their own personal opinion how can you tell?

There's a URL for each user that shows their standing. Any recent (last 30 days) reports are listed there. You can't tell who reported you, but you can tell what they were complaining about (which post, what reason they gave).

The URL is reddit-like, i.e. /u/username/standing

The problem is that there's a downside to being reported, but there's apparently no downside to reporting people. Since there's no down-voting of comments on lobsters, and since reporting comments is apparently free and unlimited, some people seem to use it as their down-vote. And since it's anonymous (the reporting person's name isn't included in the report to the person being reported), and since reporting appears to have no limits or downsides, it inevitably creates some twisted incentives.

I currently have no "reports" there, but that's because I (mostly) learned my lesson: Post your own opinion at your own risk. i.e. You'd better make sure that your opinions aren't unpopular with any users there, and particularly not with the dominant group.

I think someone else mentioned that the things that they posted that were reported, were also the things that received many more upvotes. I can personally confirm this from my own history. However, I don't find this surprising: If something evokes a response that could cause someone to upvote it, it shouldn't be surprising that it would evoke a response that could cause someone to report it. And receiving kudos for an opinion does not absolve that opinion of the responsibility to adhere to the rules and standards of the site.

Coincidentally (and AFAIK not related to this thread here), I did have a comment moderated (i.e. deleted) within the last 24 hours. I'm of mixed feelings on the rationale for the moderation. It's a thread that contains highly-upvoted comments like "I hope those responsible get sued to oblivion. This kind of stuff should result in a corporate death penalty." My comment was: "Just waiting for a case like this to make it up to the US Supreme Court so they can rule that it’s a constitutional right of companies to do this." Apparently, my post was "political". (I can only assume that the "political" aspect was my implication that non-human legal entities like corporations should not be granted legal rights by SCOTUS that expropriate or otherwise displace the rights of actual human beings.) The thread: https://lobste.rs/s/8igrxm/train_firmware_reverse_engineerin...

On the other hand, I do agree that some portion of the topic is very technical in nature (and the technical aspects are interesting), and it's hard to discuss that portion of the topic if people are constantly commenting about relevant aspects of the legal system or whatever. So since the post wasn't specifically about the legal aspects (or "political" aspects, if you insist), I can kind of see the point of the moderation.

Re: Lobsters

#210
post #66

Is there an equivalent of https://hckrnews.com/ (especially the top 10 / top 20 filters) for lobste.rs? That's the main way I browse HN, I wish I could do the same for lobste.rs. The closest seems to be https://lobste.rs/top but it seems to only cover the past week.

try this: " rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://lobste.rs/top/ n: 1, 2, 3, ... duration: h, d, w, m, y
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