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Yeah we've been trained well in the US. Only our corporate overlords should have that kind of power.
Never heard of a shipping company refusing to ship based on political belief
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Icelandic_women%27s_strik...
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Would not happen. Musk should have established the factory in EE where the local labor would bend over to him.
To be fair, lack of labor regulations and "bending over to foreign investors", including German and EU ones, is what got Eastern Europe out if the grim post communism poverty. You can't have strong unions and labor regulations when you don't have your own captive world leading domestic industry like IKEA, Siemens, SAAB, Novo Nordisk, Bosch, Airbus, etc. Nobody would invest in your country.
The problem in EE is not the laws it's the local psyche.
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> His behavior on X seems to contradict that though. Then why piss off advertisers?
You're trying to find a rational reason for impulsive behavior. There is no "why". He thought the anti-semitic meme was funny/right without thinking too much about it. Then he got mad at advertisers for, as he thought, trying to rein him in. If you want proof that Elon isn't too concerned about making good products, try using Twitter/X without being logged in. The experience is significantly worse than before the tak…
If you cared to watch the the interview I linked to above with Andrew Ross Sorkin at the NYT Dealbook summmit, you will hear three things:
a) remorse for the dumb thing he said (he says it is probably the worst mistake he has made)
b) when you say a lot, you're abound to say foolish things and that he has
c) he actually re-explained his clarification of the logic that was widely labeled as antisemitic but that people have chosen to ignore it. If you think this is a cop out, look at (a) again, where he expresses remorse for having said what he said in the way he said it.
> Then he got mad at advertisers for, as he thought, trying to rein him in.
Yes, when people try to limit what you say (beyond the law) then it is natural to be upset about it.
> If you want proof that Elon isn't too concerned about making good products, try using Twitter/X without being logged in. The experience is significantly worse than before the takeover.
Let's talk in 3 years.
Meanwhile, I'll point you to Tesla (Model Y is the best-selling car of any kind across the world), SpaceX, and Starlink. I don't know about you, but I would classify these as best in class.
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That doesn't sound like a strike at all. They presumably are still working and getting paid their wages Legally that seems a bit crazy that shipping company workers can select what gets shipped based on their political beliefs. Next the power utility company workers are going to refuse to give Tesla electricity
You are effectively saying: "It is crazy that they have an effective mechanism for ensuring good working conditions in their societies"
This and the Danish solidarity actions are mainly to prevent Tesla from shipping cars meant for the Swedish market to Danish or Norwegian ports and then trucking them to Sweden. The Swedish transport union stopped unloading Tesla cars at Swedish ports November 7, but Tesla Y was still one of the most sold car models in Sweden in November (second place between Volvo XC40 and XC60).
Funny, I wonder what sort of beef transport unions have with Tesla specifically. Also, I wonder if it would completely kill their margin to just have a horde of workers drive the cars individually to Sweden.
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> If he wants to be remembered as the dude global labor had to organize against, I mean, the bar is already pretty low where he's at but perhaps we have yet to hit bedrock. Probably with a bit to be said about dying a hero or living long enough to become the villain through the appropriate lens. Highly recommend watching the full interview that Andrew Ross Sorkin did with Elon Musk (it is the one where he told advert…
Agreed, and if Norway, Sweden, and Denmark, are for the people, let the people decide whether want to buy a Tesla and support Elon. Cutting off shipping to their rightful owners sounds like you are curtailing your own citizens from living as they please. Would be interesting if they and other countries unions had stopped the shipments of iPhones to their citizen consumers due to the working conditions and no unions a…
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>That is not true, eastern Europe has strong labour laws. Maybe compared to the US, but not compared to France, Germany or Nordics. >World leading companies were moving to eastern Europe because it was cheap. Both land and labour. The "cheap-ness" of labor is also related on the availability and strength of unions, lack of bureaucracy and red tape, taxes, worker's rights and social benefits, not just on their local s…
In Poland it is extremely hard to fire an individual with regular employment agreement. Lots of rules about overtime, work schedule, total working hours, vacations, sick leaves, payment, notice period in case of mass layoff. Labour law is strong. But people are cheap - that's what attractive for international employers. Minimum wage, costs of living in Germany is higher than in Poland. What is a minimal wage in Germa…
Yes, it's the same in Romania, on paper, there are loads of rules and regulations to protect the workers, but those rules are broken all the time by employers, especially in low paying jobs, because low paid employees don't have the time and money to take those employers to court, and there are next to no unions.
And the labor laws are still weaker than what workers in for example France or Netherlands would get for the same job at the same company.
Then there's environmental regulations which are laughable in Romania compared to what they are in Germany. To open a dirty tire factory or a mine in Germany you'd get protests up your ass meaning you'd never start building, while in Romania everything gets rubberstamped quickly if you grease the right wheels, meaning the cost of doing business is much lower regardless of wages, as the environmental costs also factor in the total cost of doing business somewhere, not just wages.
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MANY things he does are explicitly to be liked. That’s why he posts all the time, goes on interviews, shows up on SNL. Buys a social media company then burns company hours on figuring out why he isn’t the most viewed person on it. He really, really, wants to be internet liked, that’s he claims he doesn’t care about.
Liked by certain interest groups and not others. Despite really disliking Elon as a whole, one thing I like about him is that he expresses himself like a human being, contrary to most of the HR/PR/D&I drones who claim he's an antisemite now.
We saw the tweets (it wasn't just the one) he boosted and agreed with.
You can absolutely be a 'real' and authentic person without promoting that kind of garbage.
I don't think I'm alone in having previously thought he was perhaps a bit eccentric, but involved in some cool stuff. I lost a lot of respect for him though.
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Better to be a fungible labour on the assembly plant than be without the work. The alternative for eastern Europeans always was to go to UK or Germany and be a fungible labour there. Current strategy increased quality of life in EE countries. So far that in main cities in Poland housing prices are 4000-5000 USD per square meter.
Housing prices are so high because there's not enough housing and sellers can dictate prices. And that prosperity isn't due to low-paid fungible labour, although believe me, the stereotypical polish boss tries hard to drive down the price of labour... And while it's better to be with work than without, living paycheck to paycheck in fear is not that great either, and doesn't exactly provide ways out. So sometimes we'…
Poles are entrepreneurial and forward thinking nation that will sooner or later become economically as prosperous as WE.
We on the other hand will always be discount version of Austria/Germany.